LNahid2000
Senior Member
*facepalm*The Troll Baited me into responding. He just keep getting more personal because he doesn't accept views outside the Downtown Left's simpleton plan
Also, I'm pretty sure you have control of your own keyboard.
*facepalm*The Troll Baited me into responding. He just keep getting more personal because he doesn't accept views outside the Downtown Left's simpleton plan
And STC wouldn't have greater ridership than 90% of stops either if you add the 2 stops, so if my line is BS, your line is BS too.
I understand that you are being sarcastic here, but such demands will undoubtfully be made for real when / if SSE is finalized and is under construction.
Replace the RT with Subway and it will be highly used. The RT sucks and already has better ridership between Lawrence, STC & McCowan.
b) the subway extension to either STC or Sheppard will approach the limit of the reliable-operation length.
The RT has better ridership today then what this subway will have 15 years from now.
The Queen and Queens Park transfers are very poorly designed. Yet people deal. There's only a transfer on sheppard because of the subway debate, and still once you get to Yonge you have to transfer. Same with Bloor Yonge (or Pape/Eglinton East in the future.)You cant compare those transfer to SCC and certainly the one on Sheppard. These transfers are not necessary whatsoever, they deter commuters already transfering enough at proper intersecting transfer points & buses, they deter business from SCC (which is suppose to be a City Growth Centre), and in the case of Sheppard and extra transfer to those that bus in. Not to mention we have disabled, elderly & single mom commuting longer distances and adding completely absurd poorly designed transfers is an issue.
It's a poor design that take puts zero weight on the importance of integration. And its very important. The LRT in its current form is a "Band-Aid" solution because with have dithered so long and there is add cost to equality and area which already have subway refuse to care about this.
I'm talking just switching modes of transportation. You just get off at Kennedy and take the RT. How is that so bad?It hasn't been that long since I used the TTC, is it true that
or, are you referring to transfers along a different route?
- taking the Queen streetcar from the west, one has to get off at Osgoode and switch to another streetcar, and then switch again to another streetcar at Queen to continue farther east?
- taking the King streetcar from the west, one has to get off at St. Andrew and switch to another streetcar, and then switch again to another streetcar at King to continue farther east?
- taking the Danforth subway from the east, one has to get off at B-Y and switch to another subway, and then switch again to another subway at St. George to continue farther west?
Yes certainly if we build the "one stop". If we build a surface subway in the same corridor as the LRT plan the ridership will be much higher than the current RT.
The Troll Baited me into responding. I usually just ignore him and post my views but he just keeps getting more personal. As he doesn't accept views outside the Downtown Left's simpleton LRT plan
In 2012 the daily ridership at Scarborough Centre + McCowan station (combined) was 33,760. The ridership at Lawrence East was only 8,370. So while it would be unfortunate if Lawrence bus riders are unable to transfer to the subway, adding that extra stop to the subway is not gonna make the ridership "much higher". Especially if the Stouffville line will start competing for those same riders in the near future.
I'm disputing your paranoia.
Hear, hear. I'm not sure whether it's paranoia or just lousy debating technique, but it sure undermines your good points.
I will even accept that Scarboro may have been given the short end of the stick in some ways in the past. The solution to that is to remediate the areas that were underdelivered. Overdelivering on transit won't fix these other things.
If you take a community with little quality of life, and give them a subway to downtown, you don't get a thriving community. You get people going downtown to shop, see a show, or whatever. You want these things coming into Scarboro, not people leaving to get them. The one-stop won't deliver these things to Scarboro.
- Paul
I can't take seriously anyone in this debate who uses the word "respect". Transit is about moving people, not making them feel better.