salsa
Senior Member
when the head planner for transportation at the city says otherwise, I think you may want to start doubting that position..
The jury is still out on that one. It remains to be seen what Smart Track will do to the ridership.
when the head planner for transportation at the city says otherwise, I think you may want to start doubting that position..
Kinda like RH RER and what it would do to the dubiously high Yonge North modelling. 17,000 riding a 30km bus b/n Newmarket and Finch Stn turning into 19,000 peak at Steeles in 15 years?
The jury is still out on that one. It remains to be seen what Smart Track will do to the ridership.
Does Vancouver's newer trains have soundproofing?
No it doesn't. This is a vote buying exercise.
Projected subway usage is higher than LRT despite serving less corridors.
With very different capital investments, and I realize Scarborough transit at this point is about purchasing happy feelings and not actually moving the most people for our budget.
For an actual business case, it would have been interesting to take $3B and compare an equal investment in BRT, LRT, and subway. Subway to Sheppard, LRT to Steeles (roughly), and perhaps 3 new BRT corridors which merge at SCC and run in a grade separated ROW to Kennedy.
Also, metrolinx looked at running the subway in the srt corridor including a rebuild of Kennedy and it came out as something right around the same price as the council plan.
when the head planner for transportation at the city says otherwise, I think you may want to start doubting that position..
Projected subway usage is higher than LRT despite serving less corridors.
That still does not change my statement. This is a vote buying exercise and like rbt said, about feelings.With very different capital investments, and I realize Scarborough transit at this point is about purchasing happy feelings and not actually moving the most people for our budget.
For an actual business case, it would have been interesting to take $3B and compare an equal investment in BRT, LRT, and subway. Subway to Sheppard, LRT to Steeles (roughly), and perhaps 3 new BRT corridors which merge at SCC and run in a grade separated ROW to Kennedy.
The jury is still out on that one. It remains to be seen what Smart Track will do to the ridership.
So Minister Murray's plan? IIRC, it would have been about the same cost as the LRT plan (similar costs to reno existing line, "savings" from not building STC-Sheppard going to rebuilding Kennedy).
I'd be curious to hear where it was said that this would be the same cost as council's proposed alignment.
Problem with this is they everyone will complain the subway isn't connected to Sheppard East.
No one was calling for a subway stop on Sheppard East until De Baeremaeker pulled out his napkin map.
Huge thanks for your report!Just got back from the meeting.....