Danforth Line 2 Scarborough Subway Extension

[T3G]

Of course, submitting a request is no guarantee it will actually get fulfilled...

 

[micheal_can]

Of course, submitting a request is no guarantee it will actually get fulfilled...

That is where all the politicking comes into play.

 

[chrisw]

Here are some of the criteria for eligibility for baseline funding.

As the primary objective of the Baseline Funding stream is to support communities with existing public transit systems, minimum eligibility criteria have been established. Recipients must meet the following eligibility requirements in order to apply:

• The applicant has a minimum of 3 (preferably 5) years of historical ridership, population served, and capital investment data;
• The applicant's public transit system includes fixed route service;
• The applicant must have a minimum average capital investment of $100,000 annually; and
• The applicant's transit system must have a minimum annual ridership of 30,000.

 

[sixrings]

Incremental funding sounds like rebranded deferred spending.

Deferred spending is how Transit City died. You defer so long you’re no longer in power and things are canceled.

 

[rbt]

Incremental funding sounds like rebranded deferred spending.

Deferred spending is how Transit City died. You defer so long you’re no longer in power and things are canceled.

Agreed. However, anything non-trivial would require incremental funding anyway because the vendor delivery (and payment) is several years after the order is placed OR there is a long but relatively cheap design/consultation phase first before a large construction tender.

 

[Markster]

No picture, but the drilling moved north again to the westbound collectors lanes now

401 drilling is all done.

You may drive under McCowan without getting stuck in a surprise jam again.

 

[turbanplanner]

I hope they don't fund Line 2 cars without demanding higher density along the entire line!

How do you do this? Tell existing home owners tough luck?

 

[T3G]

I hope they don't fund Line 2 cars without demanding higher density along the entire line!

Apart from the fact that the line is pretty rammed as is during rush hour and adding more density to it would be detrimental, how do you envision that they would do this?

It is the TTC that would be the recipient of the subway trains. What authority do they have to demand that the city upscale the entirety of the corridor? If they can't get the city to agree, they don't get any money? Please explain at length your political theory.

 

[Undead]

Besides, MTSA zoning is already a thing and other improvements are in place like the relaxed angular plane.

 

[Northern Light]

Besides, MTSA zoning is already a thing and other improvements are in place like the relaxed angular plan

All of the corridor is now 6s as-of-right, most pockets are 8s as-of-right...........and towers have just been approved at over 50s at Main/Danforth in an already hyper-dense area.....

While applications are in for over 40s (Pape/Danforth) and 30s+ Woodbine/Danforth.......

The argument for even more is not supported by the evidence at hand.

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Apart from the fact that the line is pretty rammed as is during rush hour

As much as I have an issue w/the position you're questioning........its worth nothing that the TTC is running considerably less service on Line 2 than was previously the case.

Headways are well below pre-pandemic levels, which is what is leading to the current crowding.

You would be perfectly right to note that said crowding was an issue with higher levels of service previously...........

I just want to be clear there is room for more service on the line currently.

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As to the balance of the argument...........if the trains aren't replaced, we shut down the line, strand everyone who already lives next to line 2, and force everyone to buy a car........

Failing to fund state-of-good-repair in order to induce population/density growth is a not a well a conceived strategy in my judgement.