Danforth Line 2 Scarborough Subway Extension

[Deadpool X]

There isn't a direct subway line from Etobicoke to Downtown Toronto. You have to make a transfer.

I am not sure how familiar you are with Toronto's geography but Bloor-Yonge is in Downtown Toronto. If by downtown, you mean only Financial District, then yes there is 1 change from Etobicoke and "2" changes from Scarborough Centre.

It isn't the same direction. You're doing directly north.

No, BD line is going in North East direction at Kennedy and so is the general direction of Line 3. Now please don't say that it is off by 10 degrees so it is not the same direction.

 

[syn]

Its a natural continuation of the line which is the North-East direction. If Line 3 was solely a North-South line you might have an argument but its not. Most people take it to travel North East, the same direction as Line 2 between Main Street and Kennedy.

Of course they do, they don't have much of a choice.

The RT doesn't continue along the same line - it goes directly north to Lawrence. Why wouldn't you have to transfer??

Even the new extension is 'continuing north-east' in the most basic sense.

It's almost a direct trip north.

Eliminating this transfer for what will likely end up being a $6 billion - $8 billion price tag is silly.

I am not sure how familiar you are with Toronto's geography but Bloor-Yonge is in Downtown Toronto. If by downtown, you mean only Financial District, then yes there is 1 change from Etobicoke and "2" changes from Scarborough Centre.

Yes, by the most basic definition it is downtown, as it's on the most northern edge.

2 changes from Scarborough Centre makes sense, as it's further away.

You can be travel within the downtown core and have to make more than 2 transfers.

 

[W. K. Lis]

I am not sure how familiar you are with Toronto's geography but Bloor-Yonge is in Downtown Toronto. If by downtown, you mean only Financial District, then yes there is 1 change from Etobicoke and "2" changes from Scarborough Centre.


No, BD line is going in North East direction at Kennedy and so is the general direction of Line 3. Now please don't say that it is off by 10 degrees so it is not the same direction.

Wasn't Scarborough Town Centre the location of Scarborough's "downtown"?

Wasn't North York City Centre the location of North York's "downtown"?

What about Etobicoke's, York's, and East York's "downtown"?

They were to be six separate "downtown"'s until Mike Harris imposed amalgamation on Metropolitan Toronto?

 

[Coolstar]

Wasn't Scarborough Town Centre the location of Scarborough's "downtown"?

Wasn't North York City Centre the location of North York's "downtown"?

What about Etobicoke's, York's, and East York's "downtown"?

They were to be six separate "downtown"'s until Mike Harris imposed amalgamation on Metropolitan Toronto?

Etobicoke's downtown is the around the Six-Points area that has been reconfigurated.

Wasn't Scarborough Town Centre the location of Scarborough's "downtown"?

Wasn't North York City Centre the location of North York's "downtown"?

What about Etobicoke's, York's, and East York's "downtown"?

They were to be six separate "downtown"'s until Mike Harris imposed amalgamation on Metropolitan Toronto?

Etobicoke's "downtown" is around the Six-Points area that has recently been reconfigured. There are plans to densify the area once the Islington bus terminal is removed and services are moved to the Kipling Bus Terminal.

Could Etobicoke Centre Soon Become Toronto's 'Downtown West'?

Toronto has developed a plan targeting the transformation of Etobicoke Centre as the nucleus of a western 'city' in Toronto.

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There were once plans for a "Downtown" York around the current Mount Dennis Station and to my understanding, I haven't heard of any plans for a "Downtown" in East York.

 

[JSF-1]

There were once plans for a "Downtown" York around the current Mount Dennis Station and to my understanding, I haven't heard of any plans for a "Downtown" in East York.

Offically there isn't but I personally look at Thorncliff Park as the defacto downtown for East York. Who knows, mayber the OL will spur some more development in the area and we can really build it out into a "Downtown East York".

 

[toronto647]

Offically there isn't but I personally look at Thorncliff Park as the defacto downtown for East York. Who knows, mayber the OL will spur some more development in the area and we can really build it out into a "Downtown East York".

The city and developers have determined Don Mills & Eglinton as the "Defacto Downtown for East York". That will be the intersection where Ontario Line & Eglinton LRT will meet and within 5-7 years dozens of condos, commercial space and chill spots will be built in the vicinity.

 

[Coolstar]

The city and developers have determined Don Mills & Eglinton as the "Defacto Downtown for East York". That will be the intersection where Ontario Line & Eglinton LRT will meet and within 5-7 years dozens of condos, commercial space and chill spots will be built in the vicinity.

But Don Mills and Eglinton is in North York no? Like @JSF-1 mentioned, the OL could spur development in Thorncliffe Park and make the place more walkable/accessible and build it out as a downtown for East York.

 

[toronto647]

But Don Mills and Eglinton is in North York no? Like @JSF-1 mentioned, the OL could spur development in Thorncliffe Park and make the place more walkable/accessible and build it out as a downtown for East York.

Thorncliffe Park is technically in North York as well as per City of Toronto Website https://www.toronto.ca/city-governm...-communities/community-council-area-profiles/

However considering (no offence) the demographics of Thorncliffe Park vs. Don Mills & Eglinton is day and night. Don Mills and Eglinton will have young folks and young middle class families move into the new developments plus Science Centre, Aga Khan Museum and lots of Green Space.

Thorncliffe Park on the other hand will not get Ontario Line for another 10 years realistically and closer to gentrification and new developments will come with it. Similar to what is happening on Eglinton. New developments are now coming in only when Eglinton LRT end date is sort of solidified (earliest 2022 latest 2023).

 

[W. K. Lis]

Thorncliffe Park is technically in North York as well as per City of Toronto Website https://www.toronto.ca/city-governm...-communities/community-council-area-profiles/

However considering (no offence) the demographics of Thorncliffe Park vs. Don Mills & Eglinton is day and night. Don Mills and Eglinton will have young folks and young middle class families move into the new developments plus Science Centre, Aga Khan Museum and lots of Green Space.

Thorncliffe Park on the other hand will not get Ontario Line for another 10 years realistically and closer to gentrification and new developments will come with it. Similar to what is happening on Eglinton. New developments are now coming in only when Eglinton LRT end date is sort of solidified (earliest 2022 latest 2023).

East York consists of the former Township of East York and the Town of Leaside, forming the Borough of East York.

From link.

Line 2 would have reached the southeast corner. Line 5 would follow Eglinton Avenue East through the Town of Leaside. The Ontario Line would go almost up the middle. Thorncliffe Park would be part of the old Borough of East York.

 

[nfitz]

Line 2 would have reached the southeast corner. Line 5 would follow Eglinton Avenue East through the Town of Leaside. The Ontario Line would go almost up the middle. Thorncliffe Park would be part of the old Borough of East York.

Line 2 did go in East York. The new second entrance into Woodbine Station (and most of the westbound platform) are also in East York. The one pedestrian bridge to Victoria Park station is also in it.

East York was an odd community. The marriage of the area north of Danforth and Leaside was a quirk of geography; Toronto should have amalgamated both these areas 100 years ago, similar to other nearby neighbourhoods. And neither was particularly integrated with the Thornside area which grew up in between (which has closer links to nearby Flemingdon Park in North York). And then there's the odd Parkview Hills subdivision, and whatever the area along the west end of St. Clair East is called, which like Bermondsey area, fit better into Scarborough than anything else.

The death of East York, as opposed to Scarborough, North York, and Etobicoke, is potentially a positive from amalgamation!

 

[toronto647]

East York consists of the former Township of East York and the Town of Leaside, forming the Borough of East York.

From link.

Line 2 would have reached the southeast corner. Line 5 would follow Eglinton Avenue East through the Town of Leaside. The Ontario Line would go almost up the middle. Thorncliffe Park would be part of the old Borough of East York.

Thanks for the correction.

 

[JasonParis]

I think "downtown" East York is either by their Borough Hall and Michael Garron on Coxwell which is somewhat urban. Or the more suburban area around East York Town Centre. I don't think they even knew to be honest.

 

[Deadpool X]

Wasn't Scarborough Town Centre the location of Scarborough's "downtown"?

Wasn't North York City Centre the location of North York's "downtown"?

What about Etobicoke's, York's, and East York's "downtown"?

They were to be six separate "downtown"'s until Mike Harris imposed amalgamation on Metropolitan Toronto?

They were planned to be downtowns but they would have remained downtowns only in name. Look at Mississauga's downtown. It has grown a lot and is planned to grow a lot further. But is it in any way a real downtown or will it going to be? How much office space does downtown Mississauga have compared to downtown Toronto? 1% of downtown Toronto? How many transit lines pass through downtown Mississauga vs downtown Toronto? 0 vs 9?

 

[afransen]

I think Toronto planning has the right term: 'centres'. They are not going to challenge DT Toronto, but will be the new suburban office parks for back office functions, etc. which don't need to draw on the whole region for talent and don't warrant high DT rents.

 

[Deadpool X]

I think that's well put.