Filip
Senior Member
That's what I thought, thanks.
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caltrane74
Senior Member
Steel buildings rise faster than concrete ones right?
Sir Novelty Fashion
Senior Member
I had a faint awareness of that. But why is that the case?
simply Dan
Active Member
The basic advantages to using steel in commercial building applications include the ability to have large open floorplates, higher ceilings and ease of adaption to changing business needs. Also, steel buildings can be constructed faster as there is no waiting for concrete to cure. Residential buildings, on the other hand, tend to have floorplates that are broken up into smaller (unchanging) individual units where noise levels are a concern, thus making reinforced concrete the building material of choice.
caltrane74
Senior Member
Scotiaplaza is an exception to the rule. It was made of concrete.
hehe.
hehe.
DTGeek
Active Member
I'm also curious about this. I'm guessing it is largely because with steel you don't need as many support columns/walls, so the floors can be completely open space. In a condo you need concrete walls and floors everywhere anyway to separate units and provide sound insulation, so there's probably no point in using steel -- you'd need almost as much concrete anyway and you wouldn't be taking advantage of some of the benefits of steel like a lighter building and faster construction.
I wonder if there are other reasons... does the larger floor to ceiling hight factor into the equation? Larger floorplates? The fact the facade tends to be more irregular with a condo, with balconies jutting out (I notice steel buildings tend to be relatively boxy)? It's interesting that Scotia Plaza and I think Royal Bank plaza were built with concrete I think and not steel.
Edit: oops, too slow, most of this was covered while I was typing my post.
Sir Novelty Fashion
Senior Member
Aha... very interesting! Thanks muchly!
adma
Superstar
Isn't BCE concrete with a steel top?
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p5connex
Active Member
quite the crane...dont think we have seen such a crane in this city-could be wrong though.
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Waterloo_Guy
Active Member
Are there any plans for that lot across the street to the north?
Filip
Senior Member
This is what I can't wait to see!
That would be Bay Adelaide Centre's north tower - condo/hotel mix I believe.
That would be Bay Adelaide Centre's north tower - condo/hotel mix I believe.
Waterloo_Guy
Active Member
Filip, you might get to see just that if BCE 3 goes ahead. Although I hope they go with a new design.
So the north tower is across the street? If so, I hope they develop that whole area--it's an eyesore.
So the north tower is across the street? If so, I hope they develop that whole area--it's an eyesore.
Filip
Senior Member
I just meant I wanted to see that big mesh of steel! It's something I haven't seen yet...
maestro
Senior Member
please tell me they aren't recycling 50 odd cargo containers and stacking them one on top of the other