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2024 United States presidential election

When you look at the margins that cost Harris the Electoral College it's getting obvious that pandering to campus liberal positions doesn't work.


I think Saul is over-doing it just a bit. Not that it wasn't close or Harris might have won with this tweak or that, fair enough. I'm there.

But the idea that this is a generation in the wilderness isn't really supported by U.S. political history.

Lets look at past Presidential elections by popular vote margin:

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Source: https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...6/did-trump-win-the-popular-vote/76087754007/

The difference this time will be about +5M for Trump.

So 2M less than the last election which clearly did leave the Republicans out for a generation.
 
Did Harris actually pander to campus liberals? Save for abortion, which has a majority of voters' support, and trans rights, she ran a very safe, centrist campaign. Trump held the standard Democratic position on Gaza, offered no big budget universal programs, and tried to out-Trump Trump on the border on several occasions.

Whatever anybody's personal preference on these issues, there's no doubt that she was out of touch with the average American voter on support to Israel. Likewise on BLM, racial and sexual politics. When we can clearly see that 1% swing in Pennsylvania could have made the difference and she didn't pick Shapiro well....

He's right. That whole lefty Corbyn/Sanders wing has never delivered power when it matters.
 
I'm in a mild state of disbelief - WTF happened? Why do so many Americans really believe that Trump is beneficial to them? Are there really that many deeply cynical citizens out there who vote for trash candidates like this out of some bizarre sense of spite??

I'd actually be very curious to see what impact Russian and Chinese troll farms and misinformation bots had on influencing the outcome. That is something that needs to be looked at in depth, because it's difficult to comprehend that so many people willingly voted for this guy...

I guess our best hope now, given Trump's advanced age and poor health, is that he just drops dead while in office. But that would make Vance president, and is that really an improvement?
Trump won. That’s what happened. Many Americans believe that Trump is beneficial to them, because look at his first term, and compare with Kamala’s term. Trump had the lowest unemployment rates in American history, interest rates were at 2%, first president in recent history to not have any new wars started, etc etc etc. Under Biden-Harris, grocery prices, gas prices, all rose to ridiculous prices, wars across the ocean. Wasting tax dollars to send money to Ukraine, instead of helping Americans, etc etc etc. 80% of Americans have said that the country is headed in the wrong direction. And guess what? Who is in office right now, and was running for president? Kamala Harris. She’s had 4 years to fix America, but hasn’t. People remember how much better life was under Trump, and how bad it has turned ever since Biden-Harris have been in office. On the first day, Biden-Harris reversed all of Trump’s border policy. Reversing years worth of work that got illegal immigration to an all-time low. This is crucial, because without regulating immigration, places can easily get overloaded. Hospitals, infrastructure, etc. Jobs will be taken, leaving many people unemployed. Many illegals may cross the border, and because there are no jobs, no housing, and whatever, they may resort to crimes to even have food. Trump is not anti-immigrant, he is anti-ILLEGAL immigrant. Two different things. He wants immigrants, but he wants it to be regulated. Kamala Harris called the border policies of Trump, stupid and racist. Now she wants to secure the border? She has changed so many of her policies. Trump is consistent. He always does what he says. And looking at his first term, he did the things he said. The democrats don’t do that. They just talk talk talk, and don’t do anything. “We need to look at the impact from misinformation…” yeah, we should look at 2020. The government pressured large social media platforms such as Twitter, Facebook and others to hide anything that made Biden look bad. The Hunter Biden laptop was hidden. Anything that made Trump look bad was kept up. What has he done that is so bad? Why is he racist? Wasn’t Trump the first person to allow black and Jewish people into his nightclub in Palm Beach, and even sue the city? Didn’t he endorse a black president running for office in the 80’s, twice? And even gave them free office space in his building in NY? He even released a black father who was arrested for apparently dealing drugs, and would never see his son, and the son made a video asking Trump to release him after it was declined by Obama? How is he racist? Are we gonna forget that Kamala Harris isn’t the best person either? She arrested a mother because her daughter was “skipping school”. When in reality her daughter was in the hospital because she had sickle cell. The school understood, but Kamala decided to arrest her because of “truancy”. The mother lost her job. If we voted Biden in 2020 because Trump is “racist”, are we gonna forget all the racist things Biden has said? He said the n-word twice in court. He said that Barack Obama is the first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy. Or if you vote for Trump “you ain’t black”. It goes on and on. But honestly, who cares what presidents have done in their lives. We’re voting for a president of a country. Vote for policy, not personality. Before Barack Obama entered office, unemployment rates were at 8%. When he entered office, they doubled to 16%. When Trump entered office, they went to an all time low, of 4%. I think this is due to Trump’s tariffs, which caused many companies to relocate their factories to the USA, creating many jobs for Americans. This helped the economy, which obviously is not doing any good under Biden-Harris. As I previously mentioned, under Trump, interest rates were at 2%, now they’re at 10%. The media has taken literally everything Trump has said and called him racist, Nazi, Hitler, you name it. MSNBC literally compared the MSG rally to a 1939 Nazi rally. Are we going to forget that previous democrat presidents have also held a rally there before too? Are they also Nazis? They try to paint Trump as this horrible person. And most think that he really is bad. Wow, saying that Trump’s health is poor, is the most stupid brain dead thing I’ve read so far. And also hoping that he dies while being president is sick of you. Dude took 2 mental health tests and he aced both of them. Have you seen Joe Biden, the current president? This guy catastrophically lost that debate with Trump on CNN. All the Democrats saying that “Joe Biden is in pristine health!” but right after the debate, they quickly scramble to get rid of him. Oh, what happened? I thought his health was good? Trump’s health is amazing for his age. He is 78 and was doing multiple rallies daily, he did the Joe Rogan podcast for more than 3 hours, then flew to Michigan and did another rally for hours, and did even more rallies. The support for Trump is outstanding. People have waited hours in line just to be at a rally of his. They “fact checked” Trump so many times during that debate, but didn’t fact check Kamala once. Even though she lied and it was proven that she lied multiple times. For example she accused Trump of supporting Nazis with Charlottesville because of an out of context clip of him. This was debunked, because right after he mentioned that, he clarifies they are bad people. Blatant lies. Tim Walz is another liar. Why would this guy lie about being in Tiananmen Square? That’s not just “oops I mixed up what I did last week” that’s pretty big. Have you ever seen JD. Vance lie like that? No, JD Vance is very well spoken and intelligent. He is not “weird”. He knows what he is talking about. When Kamala Harris was asked about the wall, she just blamed that Trump is “running for president, so it’s his fault”. What??? What even is that response. She came in late for the Fox interview, and the people behind the cameras were waving to Bret to stop the interview. They could see how badly she failed that. Trump, Vance, and even Elon Musk have gone on these 3 hour long podcasts with Joe Rogan, and came to his studio in Texas, but Kamala didn’t, they just offered for Joe Rogan to come to Kamala instead, and only do around a 40 minute podcast. So many life-long democrats voting for Trump for the first time ever. RFK Jr. was the first Kennedy to endorse Trump. RFK Jr. is very smart, he talks a lot about health, and how so many additives and chemicals are in our foods that are killing us. Comparing life expectancy with other countries, America is lagging behind. This traces back to the foods we eat. The only time that the US Gov. has recently banned harmful chemicals in our food, which is 8, was under Trump. Now RFJ Jr. will ban a lot of harmful chemicals in our foods. Tulsi Gabbard who was a democrat now endorses Trump! Elon Musk was also a democrat endorses Trump! A lot of Americans are waking up from the lies of the media. I could keep going, but I think I’ve shared what I want to.
 
Trump won. That’s what happened. Many Americans believe that Trump is beneficial to them, because look at his first term, and compare with Kamala’s term. Trump had the lowest unemployment rates in American history, interest rates were at 2%, first president in recent history to not have any new wars started, etc etc etc. Under Biden-Harris, grocery prices, gas prices, all rose to ridiculous prices, wars across the ocean. Wasting tax dollars to send money to Ukraine, instead of helping Americans, etc etc etc. 80% of Americans have said that the country is headed in the wrong direction. And guess what? Who is in office right now, and was running for president? Kamala Harris. She’s had 4 years to fix America, but hasn’t. People remember how much better life was under Trump, and how bad it has turned ever since Biden-Harris have been in office. On the first day, Biden-Harris reversed all of Trump’s border policy. Reversing years worth of work that got illegal immigration to an all-time low. This is crucial, because without regulating immigration, places can easily get overloaded. Hospitals, infrastructure, etc. Jobs will be taken, leaving many people unemployed. Many illegals may cross the border, and because there are no jobs, no housing, and whatever, they may resort to crimes to even have food. Trump is not anti-immigrant, he is anti-ILLEGAL immigrant. Two different things. He wants immigrants, but he wants it to be regulated. Kamala Harris called the border policies of Trump, stupid and racist. Now she wants to secure the border? She has changed so many of her policies. Trump is consistent. He always does what he says. And looking at his first term, he did the things he said. The democrats don’t do that. They just talk talk talk, and don’t do anything. “We need to look at the impact from misinformation…” yeah, we should look at 2020. The government pressured large social media platforms such as Twitter, Facebook and others to hide anything that made Biden look bad. The Hunter Biden laptop was hidden. Anything that made Trump look bad was kept up. What has he done that is so bad? Why is he racist? Wasn’t Trump the first person to allow black and Jewish people into his nightclub in Palm Beach, and even sue the city? Didn’t he endorse a black president running for office in the 80’s, twice? And even gave them free office space in his building in NY? He even released a black father who was arrested for apparently dealing drugs, and would never see his son, and the son made a video asking Trump to release him after it was declined by Obama? How is he racist? Are we gonna forget that Kamala Harris isn’t the best person either? She arrested a mother because her daughter was “skipping school”. When in reality her daughter was in the hospital because she had sickle cell. The school understood, but Kamala decided to arrest her because of “truancy”. The mother lost her job. If we voted Biden in 2020 because Trump is “racist”, are we gonna forget all the racist things Biden has said? He said the n-word twice in court. He said that Barack Obama is the first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy. Or if you vote for Trump “you ain’t black”. It goes on and on. But honestly, who cares what presidents have done in their lives. We’re voting for a president of a country. Vote for policy, not personality. Before Barack Obama entered office, unemployment rates were at 8%. When he entered office, they doubled to 16%. When Trump entered office, they went to an all time low, of 4%. I think this is due to Trump’s tariffs, which caused many companies to relocate their factories to the USA, creating many jobs for Americans. This helped the economy, which obviously is not doing any good under Biden-Harris. As I previously mentioned, under Trump, interest rates were at 2%, now they’re at 10%. The media has taken literally everything Trump has said and called him racist, Nazi, Hitler, you name it. MSNBC literally compared the MSG rally to a 1939 Nazi rally. Are we going to forget that previous democrat presidents have also held a rally there before too? Are they also Nazis? They try to paint Trump as this horrible person. And most think that he really is bad. Wow, saying that Trump’s health is poor, is the most stupid brain dead thing I’ve read so far. And also hoping that he dies while being president is sick of you. Dude took 2 mental health tests and he aced both of them. Have you seen Joe Biden, the current president? This guy catastrophically lost that debate with Trump on CNN. All the Democrats saying that “Joe Biden is in pristine health!” but right after the debate, they quickly scramble to get rid of him. Oh, what happened? I thought his health was good? Trump’s health is amazing for his age. He is 78 and was doing multiple rallies daily, he did the Joe Rogan podcast for more than 3 hours, then flew to Michigan and did another rally for hours, and did even more rallies. The support for Trump is outstanding. People have waited hours in line just to be at a rally of his. They “fact checked” Trump so many times during that debate, but didn’t fact check Kamala once. Even though she lied and it was proven that she lied multiple times. For example she accused Trump of supporting Nazis with Charlottesville because of an out of context clip of him. This was debunked, because right after he mentioned that, he clarifies they are bad people. Blatant lies. Tim Walz is another liar. Why would this guy lie about being in Tiananmen Square? That’s not just “oops I mixed up what I did last week” that’s pretty big. Have you ever seen JD. Vance lie like that? No, JD Vance is very well spoken and intelligent. He is not “weird”. He knows what he is talking about. When Kamala Harris was asked about the wall, she just blamed that Trump is “running for president, so it’s his fault”. What??? What even is that response. She came in late for the Fox interview, and the people behind the cameras were waving to Bret to stop the interview. They could see how badly she failed that. Trump, Vance, and even Elon Musk have gone on these 3 hour long podcasts with Joe Rogan, and came to his studio in Texas, but Kamala didn’t, they just offered for Joe Rogan to come to Kamala instead, and only do around a 40 minute podcast. So many life-long democrats voting for Trump for the first time ever. RFK Jr. was the first Kennedy to endorse Trump. RFK Jr. is very smart, he talks a lot about health, and how so many additives and chemicals are in our foods that are killing us. Comparing life expectancy with other countries, America is lagging behind. This traces back to the foods we eat. The only time that the US Gov. has recently banned harmful chemicals in our food, which is 8, was under Trump. Now RFJ Jr. will ban a lot of harmful chemicals in our foods. Tulsi Gabbard who was a democrat now endorses Trump! Elon Musk was also a democrat endorses Trump! A lot of Americans are waking up from the lies of the media. I could keep going, but I think I’ve shared what I want to.

That is utterly unreadable. (format wise)

Maybe go back and consider paragraphing it...........
 
They don’t care about women’s rights
You know that Trump is against a national abortion ban, right? He’s going to leave it up to the states. Exactly the same as Kamala’s plans. There is literally no difference to abortion rights under Trump or Harris.
 
Nobody is going to, and that it's formatted this way indicates it's not going to be of value to attempt to read.
Too long?

Shorter for you.


Many Americans believe he was beneficial to the country, especially when compared to Biden-Harris.

Under Trump, unemployment hit historic lows, interest rates were at 2%, and he avoided starting new wars.

Under Biden-Harris, prices soared, inflation worsened, and immigration policies were reversed, leading to economic strain.

Trump is often labeled "racist," but as I mentioned, there have been many instances where this is simply not true.

Kamala Harris, on the other hand, also isn’t as clean.
She has inconsistent policies and controversial actions, as I also mentioned there.

Most of MSM is against Trump, but this year Americans have switched because of the failure of the Democratic Party of this term.

Trump's policies helped the economy, lowered unemployment, and focused on regulating immigration.

Many former Democrats, including RFK Jr. and Tulsi Gabbard, are now backing him due to his stance on issues like health and food safety. It’s time to focus on policies, not personalities.

This is a summary. I condensed the information into this small form factor. Hopefully this is actually of “value” to you.
 
You know that Trump is against a national abortion ban, right? He’s going to leave it up to the states. Exactly the same as Kamala’s plans. There is literally no difference to abortion rights under Trump or Harris.
His goal was always to overturn Roe vs Wade. Since that was overturned, numerous States have proceeded with their abortion bans and ridiculous requirements such as restricting abortions to less than 6 weeks, a timeframe in which many women wouldn’t even realize they were pregnant. It’s on him.
 
His goal was always to overturn Roe vs Wade. Since that was overturned, numerous States have proceeded with their abortion bans and ridiculous requirements such as restricting abortions to less than 6 weeks, a timeframe in which many women wouldn’t even realize they were pregnant. It’s on him.
It’s up to each individual state. It’s not going to be banned everywhere. If you want those rights, vote for a democratic governor then.

I also think there are many more important things to worry about other than abortion. Prices, immigration, etc.

This shouldn’t be that big of an issue in the first place.
 
I had prepared myself for this outcome, so it's not as bad for me as it was in 2016.

Vance is a weird case. If you read the book he wrote before he was famous, he's a pretty normal and thoughtful guy. Totally different from the guy he portrays himself as to gain power.
Vance is bought and paid for by Peter Thiel. If he becomes President, Thiel will essentially have bought the presidency for a few hundred million dollars.
 
It will be interesting to see what happens with Elon Musk. Trump praising him and all that, but recall what happened last time? Once Trump has used you for what he needs, you get tossed away. It will be interesting to see how long until that happens here.
A lot of leopards eating faces is going to happen. I really can't fathom that people will be shocked to be stabbed in the back by Trump, we know it is going to happen like the we know the sun rises in the east.
 
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You know that Trump is against a national abortion ban, right? He’s going to leave it up to the states. Exactly the same as Kamala’s plans. There is literally no difference to abortion rights under Trump or Harris.
Project 2025 (the unacknowledged Trump agenda by the GOP policy-wing the Heritage Foundation) calls for making it illegal to mail the 'abortion pill' across state lines or even medical equipment used for same. They would love to pass a national abortion ban. Expect the crazies in the GOP House that control the balance of power to demand it.
 
It’s up to each individual state. It’s not going to be banned everywhere. If you want those rights, vote for a democratic governor then.

I also think there are many more important things to worry about other than abortion. Prices, immigration, etc.

This shouldn’t be that big of an issue in the first place.
Women are dying because of complications of pregnancy due to abortion bans. It's barbaric.
 

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