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This collapse is spectacular. And the both the repression and blame game has started inside Russia.
Ooo, do share more - I'm fascinated with this stuff and mainstream media coverage is lacking.This collapse is spectacular. And the both the repression and blame game has started inside Russia.
Ooo, do share more - I'm fascinated with this stuff and mainstream media coverage is lacking.
This in Guardian ( https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...sian-bloggers-slam-kremlin-over-army-response ) expands on the above.Some city councillors in St. Petersburg drafted a motion basically accusing Putin of weakening Russia by invading Ukraine.
The FSB is raiding the homes of various dissidents claiming there is some grand conspiracy to undermine Russia.
Igor Girkin is claiming that Russian military isn't acting competently on intelligence to blunt the Ukrainian offensive because there's traitors inside.
Also the Russian trolls are claiming they aren't fighting Ukrainians. But that these are tens or even hundreds of thousands of British SAS and American SEALs.
You can see the narrative developing. "We lost to NATO. And these traitors betrayed us.". Anything not to admit that they are absolutely getting their backsides handed to them by the "Little Russians".
I wasn't implying otherwise, but even in western armies there are sections, fire teams, etc. Many of video clips I've seen depict a single gun vs. a gun line, a lone armoured unit or a group of maximum two or three members performing a task. This seems to be raising the concept of 'commander's intent ' and communications to an impressive level, during wartime, in a military that, while relatively large, not extensively equipped a matter of months ago.This is actually how all of NATO trains. Contrary to popular belief (as even some in this forum think), our troops are not brainless drones. You are briefed two things:
1) Your objective.
2) Commander's intent.
You are also briefed on branch and sequel plans if there are any.
What does this mean in real life? It means that regardless of whether you are a corporal or a major general, you understand the plan and the vision. It means that you not only know what your objective is, but also what to do if you accomplish or fail to achieve your objective. We expect even Privates who hit their goals to then go beyond, because they know what the overall plan is. And since everyone knows the plan, if one leader goes down the next in line steps up and knows what to do. This doctrine is called "Mission Command". Video to explain here:
One of the biggest transformations to the Ukrainian Armed Forces was transforming them from a hierarchical, top-down Soviet style military to a NATO style Mission Command military. That half a decade of training that Canada and all the NATO partners did? That was to teach them how to think like us.
You can teach a monkey how to shoot a gun. Just look at the Russian Army. Teaching said monkey how to, "Think globally. Act locally." is a whole other ballgame. The Russians don't tell their troops anything. They tell them to go to xyz coordinate and hold it till they die. They aren't told the plan. They get overrun? They don't destroy their vehicles (as we expect our troops to do in that situation). Their officer goes down and they don't know what to do, because nobody else was briefed on the overall plan and their unit's objectives. And their officers take zero initiative. Because initiative is not rewarded. Hell, if you risk and lose, you might be severely punished.
How our militaries work are a reflection of our culture. An all volunteer Western military would never accept the kind of treatment and leadership the Russians impose on their troops. Our folks expect to know the plan. And they expect to hear the truth regardless of how bad it is. Our folks expect a two way relationship of trust built on competence and confidence.
PS. I hope everybody watches the video. 9 mins. But it's worthwhile. You might even start recognizing the behaviour in leaders around you.
I wasn't implying otherwise, but even in western armies there are sections, fire teams, etc.
Many of video clips I've seen depict a single gun vs. a gun line, a lone armoured unit or a group of maximum two or three members performing a task.
They are also displaying an impressive level of ingenuity and adaptation to deliver just about anything that will go boom to the enemy.
I don’t see that on the feeds I watch. I am hearing of Russians disguising as civilians, but not of a rout.This collapse is spectacular. And the both the repression and blame game has started inside Russia.
I don’t see that on the feeds I watch. I am hearing of Russians disguising as civilians, but not of a rout.
Blyskavychna viyna!Like I said. Collapse.....
Georgia, Syria, Kazakhstan are next.
After that comes the republics inside Russia.