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2014 Municipal Election: Toronto Mayoral Race

nfitz said:
Did't they give up on the Scarborough LRT when they signed off on the final Metrolinx Kennedy station design that's now being tendered for construction, that all but eliminates the possibility of underground platforms for the LRT?
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nope, that plan still leaves the area for it. Essentially all it did was delete the SRT part. the real issues may arise from the Conlins yard which Metrolinx is redesigning to be smaller, and may tender construction for before the election.
 
StatGeek said:
So the new forum research poll came out, and does not look good for Ford (and Tory looks a bit concerning too). First Ford approval is at 38% (down from 46) . Being in the mid 40s is horrible for a sitting mayor. Getting into the 30s is Montreal mayor while in prison numbers.

The head to head of course is interesting
Chow 33% (down one but consistent) Tory 27% (up three, peaking) Ford 22% (down five, lowest point) Stintz 6% (consistent), Soknacki 5%(up one)
Problem with Ford is if he viewed as third place, He can't play the "fear of Chow" card because if Tory is leading or even with Ford numbers, they would vote for Tory not Ford as the alternative.
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So the question I have is:

If 22% to 38% of people support Ford, and 39% of people support Wynne - does that mean that 61% to 77% of Torontonians demand 0 morals, ethics and accountability from their leaders.

Or are the same people supporting both Ford and Wynne.

Ref: http://www.ipolitics.ca/2014/05/02/ontario-ndp-fading-at-critical-point-as-election-looms/
 
WislaHD said:
They propose similar policies but one is a fiscal conservative (an actual one! not the fake ones like Tory and Ford) while Chow is an NDPer
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What does that even mean?

BurlOak said:
So the question I have is:

If 22% to 38% of people support Ford, and 39% of people support Wynne - does that mean that 61% to 77% of Torontonians demand 0 morals, ethics and accountability from their leaders
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So for those among us who do demand morals, ethics, and accountability from their leaders, but also care deeply about urban issues like transit and sustainability, who exactly should we be voting for on the provincial election day? The Conservatives? So that they can shutdown Metrolinx, cancel a bunch of transit projects, and open up the greenbelt to be turned into more suburban sprawl? The NDP? Who don't seem interested in urban issues at all?
 
Silence&Motion said:
So for those among us who do demand morals, ethics, and accountability from their leaders, but also care deeply about urban issues like transit and sustainability, who exactly should we be voting for on the provincial election day? The Conservatives? So that they can shutdown Metrolinx, cancel a bunch of transit projects, and open up the greenbelt to be turned into more suburban sprawl? The NDP? Who don't seem interested in urban issues at all?
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There needs to be a new truly progressive political party in Ontario that would be like the old NDP.
 
Silence&Motion said:
So for those among us who do demand morals, ethics, and accountability from their leaders, but also care deeply about urban issues like transit and sustainability, who exactly should we be voting for on the provincial election day? The Conservatives? So that they can shutdown Metrolinx, cancel a bunch of transit projects, and open up the greenbelt to be turned into more suburban sprawl? The NDP? Who don't seem interested in urban issues at all?
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Look back in history and voters always punish party that were either corrupt, incompetent or just plain old and tired. Liberals voters did it in 1984 when Mulroney got a huge majority and the Liberals could rebuild their party. Conservative voters did it in 1993 when the Liberals came back in. Provincial Conservatives did it 2003 when McGuinty first came in.
There is nothing more important than the integrity of the people you are voting for. It is a disservice to your own cause if you do not demand accountability.
 
King of Kensington said:
...which I would add, made it very easy for the Liberals to outflank them on the left.
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But what kind of strategy is that. The Liberals are now a far left party with no credibility while the NDP are centre-left with some credibility. They have given the entire centre and right of the political spectrum to the PC's. On paper, it should be a PC landslide victory. They are relying very heavily on the fact that Hudak looks a little weird, otherwise all logic suggests the Liberals will lose big.
 
I can agree that the conservatives *could* have the entire centre and right, but they have positioned themselves pretty far to the right with Hudak. I'll skip all the tax cutting and union bashing stuff. Remember his transit policy that basically implies that, while subways would be nice, public transit can wait, and opens the door to unrestricted sprawl in the GTA? If only the conservatives were a reasonable alternative.
 
The problem is that Hudak has not picked up the slack in the center that the Liberals have ceded. In fact, the Liberals have probably consciously ceded the center in going after the NDP voters knowing that Hudak's far right policies will be more unattractive to centrists than the Liberal's shift to the left. If the conservatives returned to their progressive roots and elected a leader that didn't make people slightly nauseous at the thought of voting for him, I think the Liberals would be reduced to third party status for the better part of a decade.
 
This is an interesting development:
David Soknacki ‏@DavidSoknacki 27m
Persona non grata: was just told by a community group @downsviewpark that PMO directed that I be cut from speaking. #TOpoli
Harper is meddling, and wants Soks out. Why would he care about Soknacki?
 
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