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As a person who actually lived in the heart of Clubland at its zenith, I find your quaint description of what was going on quite humorous. And I love the way you deflect and judge anyone who doesn't support your views...very telling.

Ah, but I think we did learn a lesson from Clubland. That being concentrating what nimbys don't want in their neighbourhoods into one area does not eliminate the problem. It simply creates a concentrated problem, with its own unique liabilities.

Which still leaves us with the social problems associated with ghettoization. Hey...I have an idea...let's not rebuild Clubland...anywhere.

Yea...that's exactly what they said about the Entertainment District. Ghettoizing is generally bad policy.

Listen. First of all, the islanders have the worst deal in the history of real estate, so how people come off as perceiving that they have some sort of freeloading, sweetheart deal is laughable at best. Why so many people have this contempt for them is one of the more perplexing mysteries...

I thought it was because...“We don’t have the hard infrastructure capacity to flush that many toilets,” Keesmaat says. ha ha In other words, if you need to blow smoke up the chief planners arse, you do it.

Well, I wouldn't because my ego doesn't over-ride my ability to recognize when I'm being patronized. Which is obviously what Gehry was doing.

That depends on the merits of the heritage structures in question. And in this case, it merits very little consideration, especially when the proposed design was factored in. Even the current design includes facadisms and total demolition. Preservation for the sake of it it is poor planning...

Oddly enough, I generally don't find the landscaping on private developments all that terrible. I'm just happy to see anything. The occasionally stand-out landscape design is a treat. Most major global cities don't have the luxury of much landscaping at all, as most developments are part of...

(opening ceremonies actually) A talented voice covering the work of a talented songwriter, culminating in one of the greatest covers of all time (if kd decides to cover your tune, she's probably going to own it from now on). It's insulting to even mention garbage like Kanye.

For comparison, let's look at the musical talent from the opening/closing ceremonies in Vancouver, which I think most people would agree, was well done. Two observations: Canadian and not rap. Rap was under-represented for the same reason you don't serve Big Macs at your wedding. in order of...

Isn't the closing ceremonies part of the Pan Am games? And just so you know....bitching about off-topic posts is also off-topic (and IMO, the most annoying form of it).

That's exactly the point he is trying to make...it may have originated from the genuinely poor, uneducated, ghetto dwellers of American inner cities, but has long since just become a phoney, wanna-be affectation. Pretending to be stupider than you actually are as an expression of youth culture...

Isn't it ironic how the people who think rap = music are the same people who think ad hominem = ignore.

You are kidding yourself and trying too hard to make it all sound sophisticated...when it is the exact opposite. You should be asking yourself why you are apologizing for it. Hip hop was just another interesting experiment from the late 70's, early 80's that should have died with punk and...

No...rapping is talking, and talking is talking...not music. And it's usually very bad talking to boot. Even if that's true, it still doesn't mean anything with rhythm is music. Otherwise my dishwasher is making music.

I'm not disputing this. I'm just saying that it isn't a good thing, and we should do our best to change this sad fact. I'm just saying let's show a little class while the spotlight is on us. If we have to provide a little bit of that. then at least pick something less comical than Kanye...

I make a distinction between rap and hip hop. Hip hop is a cultural movement that has very fuzzy boundaries and crosses over into everything these days. It's also incredibly over-saturated the mainstream culture. There's always been "music" that can be considered part of the hip hop style or...

Talented rapper is an oxymoron. I'm of course not saying that spoken word is not an art form...just that the likes of Kanye or Jay Z are not talented purveyors of it. It's like saying the people who work at McDonalds are talented chefs. It's also not really "music". It isn't my opinion that...

Popularity and talent are not mutually exclusive. There was a time when that was the rule, rather than the exception. I cannot relate to the level of a mind that finds something like a Kanye West even remotely entertaining. The fact that he represents what constitutes the biggest superstars...