I dont know.....I like visible transit (particularly in the suburbs)....something that makes people look at it and say what is that and where does it go or get me too. underground or hidden transit (especially in the suburbs) can be out of sight....out of view......out of mind!The VIVA Vaughan Metropolitan Centre Subway Station is so incredibly large in the middle of Highway 7. If you thought the normal VIVA stations were huge, you'll be amazed by how grand this station is. I think that an underground bus station would be better than a large station above ground with elevators and stairs (bus lanes that go under the roadway). It would be similar to what the original plan for the Yonge Street Rapidway.
I agree with you that transit has to be visible, but making a road that is literally 12 lanes wide is a waste of space and takes a lot of time to cross.I dont know.....I like visible transit (particularly in the suburbs)....something that makes people look at it and say what is that and where does it go or get me too. underground or hidden transit (especially in the suburbs) can be out of sight....out of view......out of mind!
Over time it will likely be seen/felt more like two separate crossings with a stop/gap in the middle.....is there a significant amount of foot traffic crossing 7 at that point now anyway? I would have thought not.I agree with you that transit has to be visible, but making a road that is literally 12 lanes wide is a waste of space and takes a lot of time to cross.
I agree with you that transit has to be visible, but making a road that is literally 12 lanes wide is a waste of space and takes a lot of time to cross.
Rather than be excited about the prospect.....his first two comments (in quick succession) were "that's gonna mean a lot of construction around me.....and that will be a long ride to work".
A 6 lane road is already a pedestrian nightmare. A 10-12 lane road would be hell.(That different tune will be "they should have just widened the road, and not wasted space on buses")
To be fair to him, it is a pretty long subway ride from Highway 7 all the way downtown. A GO train really is the ideal mode to go that kind of distance, especially when the RER upgrades are done. I've never been a big fan of the subway pushing farther and farther into the suburbs for that reason.Sometimes, however, you wonder if there is any hope.....just showed that graphic above to a co-worker who lives on Wigwoss...just north of 7....pointed out how, soon, he will be able to walk to the end of his street...hop on a VIVA bus that will run in its own ROW and be whisked to the subway where he can get a seat and ride all the way into the office.
Now, to be clear, this is not the most "anti" transit person I know and he does, ocassionally, drive to York GO and take the GO....but he is very much a car/motorcyle enthusiast.
Rather than be excited about the prospect.....his first two comments (in quick succession) were "that's gonna mean a lot of construction around me.....and that will be a long ride to work".
Total travel time....for him....would be much the same......the subway is closer to his home.....and subway delivers him right to our building.....not a station a ten minute walk from our building......but, yes it is a long subway ride.To be fair to him, it is a pretty long subway ride from Highway 7 all the way downtown. A GO train really is the ideal mode to go that kind of distance, especially when the RER upgrades are done. I've never been a big fan of the subway pushing farther and farther into the suburbs for that reason.
Total travel time....for him....would be much the same......the subway is closer to his home.....and subway delivers him right to our building.....not a station a ten minute walk from our building......but, yes it is a long subway ride.
Also, while 15-minute headways once RER is live are very impressive, they're still way higher than the TTC's subway headways. You'll likely have to wait about 2-3 minutes on average at VMC for a subway vs 7.5 minutes on average at a GO station. And, also, that's once RER goes live, and who knows when that'll be--TYSSE opens late 2017/early 2018. RER is at least 5 more years off, probably 7+.