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YRT service proposals for 2023:
Webpage: https://www.yrt.ca/en/about-us/transit-initiatives.aspx
Overview Presentation: https://www.yrt.ca/en/about-us/resources/2023-Transit-Initiatives_FINAL.pdf
I'll post the entire slides for the more interesting changes:
Other changes:
Frequency improvements
- 25 Major Mack East: rush hour frequency increased from 32-34 mins to 26-27 mins
- 50 Queensway: midday frequency increased from 39 mins to 33 mins
- 85 Rutherford: rush hour frequency increased from 18-19 mins to 15-16 mins
- Vague "improve frequency where needed" and "Evaluate reintroducing suspended routes" for all Viva routes
Service reductions:
- 26 Maple reduced to rush hour only (previously half was Mon-Fri, and the other half was rush hour only)
- 107/107B Keele: buses replaced with articulated buses, rush hour frequency reduced from 11 to 18 minutes
Service reinstatements:
- 10 Woodbridge reinstated with modifed route to be more direct
Other:
- 33A Wellington cancelled, service moved to main 33 branch
Commentary:
- 105 Dufferin - Overall great. The huge one way loop that existed previously was terrible and having no weekend service north of Rutherford made no sense. Extension to Maple GO also makes lots of sense, since the end of the route is already really close. The frequency improvement is also good to see, but is still too low, especially on the branched part where the frequency gets cut in half.
- 165 and 21 - Overall bad. The 21 is proposed to get a ridiculously large one-way loop to replace the 165F which is proposed to be cancelled. IMO this is completely the opposite of what should happen - I think the 21 should be cancelled and replaced by branch(es) of the 165. Through service to the subway is very valuable here, not just for a one-seat ride to the subway but also to reduce the number of transfers to other routes in general. The 21 is like if TTC operated a route going in circles around Finch/Morningside and then just dumping everybody at Agincourt Mall and making people transfer to the 85. Obviously, the TTC does not operate such a route and instead all service in this area through runs onto an arterial route to the subway.
- 20E: Seems strange to introduce an express service on Jane instead of the VIVA service that has been proposed forever. The 20 also serves no less than 5 bus terminals over the 10km route, which is frankly ridiculous, and the new 20E will continue to serve all terminals along its route, which will inevitably make it really slow. The new bus terminal in front of the Vaughan hospital was a giant mistake and the 20 really should really skip either VMC or 407 station.
- 24: What are they thinking??? This is so stupid. Extending the 24 through farm fields to the middle of nowhere to serve a peak hour, peak direction only GO station. Gormley is also the second last station (and the last station is Bloomington which is totally useless) so the only reason anyone would want to go to Gormley at all would be to go south. Who is going to ride the 24 north to Gormley, just to go back south on GO?
Webpage: https://www.yrt.ca/en/about-us/transit-initiatives.aspx
Overview Presentation: https://www.yrt.ca/en/about-us/resources/2023-Transit-Initiatives_FINAL.pdf
I'll post the entire slides for the more interesting changes:
Other changes:
Frequency improvements
- 25 Major Mack East: rush hour frequency increased from 32-34 mins to 26-27 mins
- 50 Queensway: midday frequency increased from 39 mins to 33 mins
- 85 Rutherford: rush hour frequency increased from 18-19 mins to 15-16 mins
- Vague "improve frequency where needed" and "Evaluate reintroducing suspended routes" for all Viva routes
Service reductions:
- 26 Maple reduced to rush hour only (previously half was Mon-Fri, and the other half was rush hour only)
- 107/107B Keele: buses replaced with articulated buses, rush hour frequency reduced from 11 to 18 minutes
Service reinstatements:
- 10 Woodbridge reinstated with modifed route to be more direct
Other:
- 33A Wellington cancelled, service moved to main 33 branch
Commentary:
- 105 Dufferin - Overall great. The huge one way loop that existed previously was terrible and having no weekend service north of Rutherford made no sense. Extension to Maple GO also makes lots of sense, since the end of the route is already really close. The frequency improvement is also good to see, but is still too low, especially on the branched part where the frequency gets cut in half.
- 165 and 21 - Overall bad. The 21 is proposed to get a ridiculously large one-way loop to replace the 165F which is proposed to be cancelled. IMO this is completely the opposite of what should happen - I think the 21 should be cancelled and replaced by branch(es) of the 165. Through service to the subway is very valuable here, not just for a one-seat ride to the subway but also to reduce the number of transfers to other routes in general. The 21 is like if TTC operated a route going in circles around Finch/Morningside and then just dumping everybody at Agincourt Mall and making people transfer to the 85. Obviously, the TTC does not operate such a route and instead all service in this area through runs onto an arterial route to the subway.
- 20E: Seems strange to introduce an express service on Jane instead of the VIVA service that has been proposed forever. The 20 also serves no less than 5 bus terminals over the 10km route, which is frankly ridiculous, and the new 20E will continue to serve all terminals along its route, which will inevitably make it really slow. The new bus terminal in front of the Vaughan hospital was a giant mistake and the 20 really should really skip either VMC or 407 station.
- 24: What are they thinking??? This is so stupid. Extending the 24 through farm fields to the middle of nowhere to serve a peak hour, peak direction only GO station. Gormley is also the second last station (and the last station is Bloomington which is totally useless) so the only reason anyone would want to go to Gormley at all would be to go south. Who is going to ride the 24 north to Gormley, just to go back south on GO?
