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Lansdude
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jozl
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Does anyone have any news, a sign of life, a tiny morsel that indicates that the South Yonge Street BIA's proposal isn't dead? Or... is south Yonge Street just going to make due with the piecemeal, directionless remainders garnered from the developers building there? No master plan, no scraps allocated to pedestrian traffic? No nothing? Perhaps the ridiculous crane atop the L Tower can be moved to the median at the centre of Yonge and College as a monument to Toronto's forward thinking planners.
ADRM
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Last I saw mention of it from KWT was no more than a couple months back, and the gist was that it's still a work in progress. Not entirely sure what that means, though.
If I had to guess, the powers-that-be who want this to move in the direction of more/better space for pedestrians and possibly cyclists might be thinking that they don't want this to become another DoFo 2018 target, so would wait to push until after the election.
Northern Light
Superstar
Look here for the capital budget status of this project.
https://urbantoronto.ca/forum/threads/city-of-toronto-capital-budget-2018.28106/#post-1283167
https://urbantoronto.ca/forum/threads/city-of-toronto-capital-budget-2018.28106/#post-1283167
jozl
Active Member
Thank you ADRM and Northernlight. I don't see Downtown Yonge in the budget. North York's "Downtown Yonge" is mentioned though. Perhaps the downtown section is getting funded solely by the BIA? At any rate the proposal is moribund. As I predicted would happen. I think the resistance to getting public realm projects done readily stems from lack of adaquate representation of the downtown wards on city council.
jozl
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By the way Northen Light, I just noticed your closing statement "An environmentally concientious libertarian inclined, fiscally conservative socialist" I love it! You described me perfectly.
Northern Light
Superstar
https://www.toronto.ca/wp-content/uploads/2017/12/8eca-TP-2018-Cap-Budget-Notes-V2.pdf
Page 30, roughly in the middle, listed as "Lower Yonge"
Years 2021-2024, total budget, $100M
innsertnamehere
Superstar
non debt funding too, which means that it is expected to come from section 37 and whatnot.
ADRM
Senior Member
Are they rolling up some non-roads infrastructure upgrades into that number (i.e. sewers, watermains, other servicing, etc.)? Otherwise, I'm having a tough time imagining how they get to $100M based on costs related to expanding sidewalks, pavers, road marking and signage changes, etc.
Northern Light
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I'm not certain what's in the whole plan, I do know a portion of Yonge was on the reconstruction list.
But don't under estimate the costs on widening sidewalks, the big thing is having to move all the drains, which means break up the road bed and installing longer pipes.
Though its likely pedestrian-scale lighting will all be replaced and relocated as well.
Also, I expect the public realm here to be fairly decent quality.
At 3.6km of roadway it will add up quickly.
pman
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Can I assume heated sidewalks aren’t in the plan?
Northern Light
Superstar
Haven't heard.
Nice idea though!
At the very lease heated catch basins, so the meltwater can drain properly; I would love for there to be arc-shaped basin drains (slim profile) following the radii of the sidewalk at corners.
vatche
Senior Member
Montreal is doing heated sidewalks I hear