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TTC's Fancy New Technologies Thread

The TTC needs to open this technology up, release an API and let other enterprising nerdy-types have at it. I'd love to see what myttc would do with that kind of data. And I'd love to be able to find out when the next streetcar is coming through a nifty 'TTC' app on my iPhone.

There's really no downside to publishing real-time arrival & departure data. Unless they're embarrassed.
 
Next train to Finch in 29 minutes

knowing about the next train (or next Queen 501) is pretty pointless UNTIL the service is disrupted >> then it becomes far more relevant to users

so it's crucial that the times be accurately estimated in order to be trusted by folks

PS-- grey island owns nextbus and not only is it sweeet technology, it has a load of potentially customer-friendly side-effects...

also note that NextBus probably dislikes being associated with inaccurate info, so TTC may need to pull up its socks on the technology side

worth watching closely...
 
just saw a segment about it on cbc news.

they had a photo op with giambrone at dundas station showing how this works. they said that the first station in the trial run will be at dundas. basically, the lower red strip on the screens where they usually have info about the ttc (stand back of the yellow line, welcome to ..... station) is where the countdown timer will be.
 
This solution reminds me of edward debono's solution for a slow elevator in an office bldg: he just put in a mirror in the elevator lobby, and all the vain people were distracted long enough to make the wait more bearable. He didn't actual solve the fact that the elevator was slow. :)
 
It's up at Dundas Station

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TTC Unveils 'Next Train' Signs To End Suspense Over When Subway Is Coming

Thursday September 4, 2008
CityNews.ca Staff
If you've ever taken the subway, you've likely done it - craned your neck around the corner, peering into the darkness of the tunnel as you waited what seemed like an eternity for your train to arrive.
There are few things more frustrating than standing there looking at your watch as the station remains empty.
The TTC knows that and now they've taken steps to alleviate your pain. Their answer - a simple sign that tells you when the next set of cars are coming and how long you'll have to wait for them.
The concept was unveiled in a test effort at busy Dundas station Thursday. A notice at the bottom of those electronic screens that carry headlines and ads will simply say 'next train coming in' followed by a minute-by-minute countdown clock.
If there's a delay caused by switching problems, a car breakdown or passenger illness, the information about the delay and the length of time you can expect to wait before the next train roars in will be instantly displayed.
TTC chair Adam Giambrone admits it will really help those who travel off peak hours the most. "During rush hour when we're running a train every two minutes - not really too important. [But] possibly to know when we're having problems ... it allows us to communicate this directly to people on the platform."
Giambrone hopes it will also stop people from charging crowded cars, knowing another train is only a minute away.
And that's just the start. The TTC plans to expand the concept and offer an email update on service delays in the near future. And it's also setting up an e-commerce service to buy fares and an Internet planner that can let you set up your entire route before you leave home.
The current experiment looks simple but cost $300,000 to implement. There's no word on when the other advancements will be on line.
What do riders who've seen the countdown clock think? "Hopefully it's accurate," ventures Will Lee, a university student who depends on the subway to get to classes on time. "I think it's great for people who are in a hurry."
Which is most of Toronto.
Amanda Paterson thinks it will have another effect. "Hopefully people will be in a better mood because of it," she laughs.
The test phase will be only at Dundas for the next three months, while the Red Rocket gets feedback and works out any bugs. But it will be in all 69 stations by next year.
 
he should've said that people won't have to lean too close to the edge in order to see the lights from the train, which makes things safer.
 
Hopefully the information about a delayed train will take up the entire screen, not just the small 10% at the bottom
 
Well!!!!!!!!!!!................They better put up more screens....................otherwise, it one will want to stand next to the only one on the platform.

It taken them long enough, consider the BD was supposed to be the first line to have this info..................Humm!!!! when did the last GM quit, as that was supposed to be the year.

I can see it now...............the train is 1 minute away according to the screen and it shows up 20-60 minutes later due problems on the line............VIVA has this issue.
 
The countdown to the next train should be much bigger than the strip at the bottom. It should take up at least 30% of the screen.

Perhaps the timer should be integrated with advertising to cover more of the screen... say a "Next Train Countdown... brought to you by Rogers". Otherwise the TTC should invest in its own screens for the timer.
 
The only people who would be critical of the concept of countdown screens are transit enthusiasts. The details of the screen display and locations need to be hammered out but conceptually this is the best thing the TTC has done in years. Their failure to see the obvious customer service improvement the screens provide is symptomatic of a failure in the guiding philosophy of the TTC in general. Somewhere in the distant past the TTC forgot that at it's core it provides transporation services to real people, it is not just a stewart that oversees at its highest function compliance with technical manuals written in 1965.
 
The total value of the TTC contracts is estimated at $9.9 million, Grey Island said in its announcement Tuesday.
The TTC operates the third-most heavily used transit system in the United States and Canada.

9.9 mil seems pretty reasonable... TTC is third largest after Mexico City and NYC
 
Agree with posters here that it's wasted on the subway. Would be a blessing for the car and bus routes.
 

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