Richard White
Senior Member
I would assume staffing and demand.
No doubt they focus on daytime staffing rather than overnight for obvious reasons. Likewise, there was probably not enough demand to warrant overnight streetcar service.
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TTC: Streetcar Network
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I would assume staffing and demand.
No doubt they focus on daytime staffing rather than overnight for obvious reasons. Likewise, there was probably not enough demand to warrant overnight streetcar service.
T3G
Senior Member
The routes which did that did it because they were incorporated together with another route - Bathurst had one through route provided along its entire length, Kingston Road was part of the Coxwell night bus, and St Clair was bustituted because the night bus ran further west than the daytime car did.
Keeping this in mind, all of these changes sound like they are going to make traveling worse along the routes in question.
The routes which paralleled their daytime equivalents in full, such as Queen, King, and Carlton, have always used streetcars.
APTA-2048
Senior Member
According to an operator friend who has taken a look at one, they are nearly identical. He was a bit disappointed as there were things he would have liked to see changed.
One difference I noted was they were delivered with solid red and blue seat moquette.
dowlingm
Senior Member
kotsy
Senior Member
It's not even done. They're repaving the roads on either side of the tracks now.
drum118
Superstar
Nov 16
All the shots are now up on my site for Adelaide St Work
Sept 13 2013 The removal of the switches and southbound track
Nov 16 2023 Reinstalling the switches and Southbound track
Ready to be dug up from the intersection to east of the driveway to the parking garage
All the shots are now up on my site for Adelaide St Work
Sept 13 2013 The removal of the switches and southbound track
Nov 16 2023 Reinstalling the switches and Southbound track
Ready to be dug up from the intersection to east of the driveway to the parking garage
Mount Dennis Resident
Active Member
Out-of-date single-point track switches. Wonder if the electronics to operate them is up-to-date at least installed?
Will the streetcars still have to stop at each of the track switches?
Will the streetcars still have to stop at each of the track switches?
T3G
Senior Member
Yes they will, because it has been stated on countless occasions that stop/check/go is due to the TTC's own safety convention (paranoia), and has nothing to do with the actual physical properties of single point switches.
Mount Dennis Resident
Active Member
adys123
Active Member
No, you would know if they stopped at every switch if you rode the subway. The streetcar maintenance program has always struggled more than the subway. No one here is arguing that it's a rationale policy, but it certainly is safe and easy to apply as a blanket policies when there's no consistency across the network.
rbt
Senior Member
No. The subway system uses completely different electronics for determining the position of the train.
New systems, like Finch, are much more like the subway. Converting downtown to a CBTC system (Finch uses SelTrac) and tying that into the switches would eliminate a number of issues. As a secondary item, the CBTC system could also provide hints to streetlights (like green requests if there is a large gap in service). It would be a large project.
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goreckm
Active Member
drum118
Superstar
Hurontario Switch not fully built
Finch LRT Switch
Finch LRT Switch
EastYorkTTCFan
Senior Member
Yup they're a different type of switch then used in the TTC streetcars, what's your point? We should spend money ripping up all of the switches and replace them with ones like that?Hurontario Switch not fully built
Finch LRT Switch
drum118
Superstar
There was a plan at one time to replace the existing switches and move to switches like these, but disappeared as far as I know. Crosstown have the similar switches as well and TTC drivers will love them flying through them.
Until TTC fixes the switches issues, Streetcar service is going to suck.