TTC: Other Items (catch all)

[Monarch Butterfly]

Line 1 (yonge-university)–St George to St Andrew stations – full weekend closure – Saturday, February 1 and Sunday, February 2, 2025​

From https://www.ttc.ca/service-advisories/subway-service/Line-1-St-George-to-St-Andrew-full-weekend-closure-Feb-1-and-2-2025

On Saturday, February 1 and Sunday, February 2, 2025, there will be no subway service between St George and St Andrew stations.

The following work is planned:

• Museum Station elevator installation construction
• Station upgrades at Queen’s Park and St Patrick stations
• Track work between St George and St Andrew stations

The TTC will not be running shuttle buses during the closure between St George and St Andrew stations because of ongoing construction along the route, which would impact the consistency of shuttle bus service.

As least allow Bike Share to use PRESTO transfers.

 

[drum118]

The end of the line has come for TTC Heritage Streetcar Fleet and sad to not see them on the road or the yards anymore. Has to do with lack of space.

TTC Historic Fleet Moves to Streetcar Museum

 

[EYorker]

The end of the line has come for TTC Heritage Streetcar Fleet and sad to not see them on the road or the yards anymore. Has to do with lack of space.

TTC Historic Fleet Moves to Streetcar Museum

I am told this move is temporary. This is to accommodate construction at Hillcrest, for the expansion and reconfiguration to handle the Flexities.

Hillcrest Complex Upgrades

www.ttc.ca

 

[T3G]

Of course, considering the TTC's long standing indifference to the heritage fleet, I wonder if anyone will come calling to pick them up when the modernization is done ...

 

[smallspy]

I am told this move is temporary. This is to accommodate construction at Hillcrest, for the expansion and reconfiguration to handle the Flexities.

Hillcrest Complex Upgrades

www.ttc.ca

This is correct. The plan is that Halton County will hold the cars for 5 years.

Dan

 

[Richard White]

This is correct. The plan is that Halton County will hold the cars for 5 years.

Dan

Dan,

Any idea if they will be restoring the cars or just leaving them in storage?

From what I understand, HCRY has more rolling stock than manpower. I could have swore I heard somewhere that they are being selective when it comes to restoration due to manpower availability.

 

[Richard White]

Anyone know what this is all about?

https://www.reddit.com/r/TTC/comments/1icumsk/first_time_seeing_a_layover_stop_blue_jays_way_at

 

[Towered]

The end of the line has come for TTC Heritage Streetcar Fleet and sad to not see them on the road or the yards anymore. Has to do with lack of space.

TTC Historic Fleet Moves to Streetcar Museum

The whole point of having these is to be able to bring them out on special occasions or for people to rent them. I'm sorry, I'm not buying that whole "they're only going to the museum for 5 years and then they'll come back" BS. It's a death sentence. Does anyone here honestly believe the mismanaged TTC will actually make the effort to return them? They'll just pretend they don't exist and hope we forget about them.

 

[Richard White]

The whole point of having these is to be able to bring them out on special occasions or for people to rent them. I'm sorry, I'm not buying that whole "they're only going to the museum for 5 years and then they'll come back" BS. It's a death sentence. Does anyone here honestly believe the mismanaged TTC will actually make the effort to return them? They'll just pretend they don't exist and hope we forget about them.

I feel like you are dead on here.

It will cost money to retrofit the cars with pantographs and I doubt the TTC wants to maintain facilities to repair these cars given how antiquated they are.

What the TTC needs is something akin to the LTM's Acton Depot where they have a dedicated facility to repair, store and maintain artefacts.

 

[Monarch Butterfly]

I feel like you are dead on here.

It will cost money to retrofit the cars with pantographs and I doubt the TTC wants to maintain facilities to repair these cars given how antiquated they are.

What the TTC needs is something akin to the LTM's Acton Depot where they have a dedicated facility to repair, store and maintain artefacts.

You're right. PCC streetcars with pantographs not possible.

Muni using pantographs on their streetcars back in 1976.

The real reason for the TTC is the lack of funding. Putting pantographs on the vintage streetcars is a "nice to have". The anti-transit politicians will not approve of such expenditures.

 

[evandyk]

I think once they've been out of sight and out of mind for five years, it'll be hard for the TTC to find any budget to support bringing them back.

 

[T3G]

You're right. PCC streetcars with pantographs not possible.
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Muni using pantographs on their streetcars back in 1976.

The real reason for the TTC is the lack of funding. Putting pantographs on the vintage streetcars is a "nice to have". The anti-transit politicians will not approve of such expenditures.

He didn't say pantographs on PCCs weren't possible, he said that they have to be retrofitted, which is true.

 

[Voltz]

The whole point of having these is to be able to bring them out on special occasions or for people to rent them. I'm sorry, I'm not buying that whole "they're only going to the museum for 5 years and then they'll come back" BS. It's a death sentence. Does anyone here honestly believe the mismanaged TTC will actually make the effort to return them? They'll just pretend they don't exist and hope we forget about them.

I'm reminded of all those missing station ceiling panels that get removed for work and then never get put back in.

 

[smallspy]

Dan,

Any idea if they will be restoring the cars or just leaving them in storage?

From what I understand, HCRY has more rolling stock than manpower. I could have swore I heard somewhere that they are being selective when it comes to restoration due to manpower availability.

At this point, it's just storage as I understand it.

HCRY will try and run them as much as possible, but as you correctly point out, manpower is a restriction which would prevent them from doing much more than that.

I'm reminded of all those missing station ceiling panels that get removed for work and then never get put back in.

Depending on which stations and which ceiling panels they will never go back in, and the reason isn't that the work will never be done.

On the YUS, those panels caused issues with the roof-mounted A/C units of the TRs.Removing them resolved those issues.

Look for the same to happen on the few BD stations have have drop ceilings or slats over the tracks once the new trains start to arrive.

Dan

 

[nfitz]

It would be a damn shame if the museum stuck pantographs on them ...

I wonder how much they are "paying the museum for storage"?

My big concern is how they are storing them. There doesn't seem to be enough barn space at the museum to cover everything that should be covered.