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[turbanplanner]

Please tell us all now, about you responsibly went down to the collector, informed them of the issue, and requested that special constables be summoned. (my fulsome applause if you did; if you didn't, then your indifference is part of the problem)



Did the people involved threaten you, or attack you? If not, then they did not make your trip unsafe. That's not to suggest that its fine they were there. But you must distinguish between acceptable/unacceptable, desirable/undesirable and dangerous/safe.

These are not the same spectra.

There is an unwritten social contract, don’t bother me and I won’t bother you. When people start acting strange or are on mind altering drugs that contract goes out the window, and I won’t blame someone for feeling uneasy.

So people won’t put words in my mouth, I have no issues with the people sleeping rough and keeping to themsleves

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To be fair, the TTC has breed the indifference.

In 2019 at Dundas station, someone was collapsed on the stairs. Myself, my partner, and another women went to the collectors booth to request 911 be called to provide assistance. The collector with no sense of urgency started to ask a series of questions. When it was clear that she was just going to keep asking questions, I got fed up and went out of the station to call 911 ourselves. The 911 operator asked if there was an AED accessible so I sent my partner to ask, the collector refused to tell her where it was located or provide one. She just roller her eyes and turned around.

When reporting this to the TTC they did a "full investigation" and found that their staff did nothing wrong, and that their measure of this was that the person didn't die.

Last week TTC staff and two other individuals whose yellow vests covered their jackets, ushered someone having a mental health incident onto our train as it entered Dundas Station at 1am.
The TTC staff member waved by to them patronizingly, and when she saw us looking at her in disgust, she shrugged her shoulder. The person's behaviour was so aggressive that most people got off at the next stop and waited for another train. Still waiting on the report for this, but I'll not be shocked that they "followed procedures" in putting customers at risk.


Where did these riots happen in Toronto? Or is this another example of the right imagining things to play victim?

The city was boarded up if you walked along Yonge and some other major streets

 

[picard102]

The city was boarded up if you walked along Yonge and some other major streets

So no riots. Got it.

 

[turbanplanner]

So no riots. Got it.

Not sure what point you're trying to get at? Threats are ok if nothing happens?

Does anybody know when the numbers for fare evasion in 2024 will come out? I saw plainclothes inspectors are now a thing so it might adjust peoples habbits.

 

[picard102]

Not sure what point you're trying to get at? Threats are ok if nothing happens?

The point is it never happened. Nor were threats made of it happening. Saying we had riots is a lie, and not even a clever one.

 

[nfitz]

Not sure what point you're trying to get at? Threats are ok if nothing happens?

I have not idea what you are referring to.

I'm concerned that you are making references to black rioting and threats in Toronto that I honestly don't recall. Can you link to this?

 

[Kyle Campbell]

There definitely wasn't any rioting. Some stores on Yonge did board up because of what was happening in the States as a precaution, but they were just being cautious, there wasn't any specific threats

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toro...p-downtown-toronto-possible-protest-1.5594356

 

[DSCToronto]

 

[max]

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Well, that sounds like it's either going to delay the streetcar return or make it so that we have another disruption at some point in the future.

I was optimistic at the beginning of January when I saw this at the rear of the 320 property:

 

[DSCToronto]

Well, that sounds like it's either going to delay the streetcar return or make it so that we have another disruption at some point in the future.

I was optimistic at the beginning of January when I saw this at the rear of the 320 property:
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Yes, working on the expropriation now does seem bit late. Not sure whether they can open the streetcar station again before this gets dealt with. This from Steve Munro may be of interest https://stevemunro.ca/2023/09/18/streetcar-queues-at-spadina-station/

FWIW TTC website still says reopening in March 2025 https://www.ttc.ca/about-the-ttc/projects-and-plans/Spadina-Avenue---overhead-upgrades

 

[nfitz]

Yes, working on the expropriation now does seem bit late. Not sure whether they can open the streetcar station again before this gets dealt with.

They aren't close to awarding the main construction project. As far as I know the current work is just an early works project. Utilities perhaps (complete guess).

 

[turbanplanner]

I have not idea what you are referring to.

I'm concerned that you are making references to black rioting and threats in Toronto that I honestly don't recall. Can you link to this?

The point is it never happened. Nor were threats made of it happening. Saying we had riots is a lie, and not even a clever one.

There definitely wasn't any rioting. Some stores on Yonge did board up because of what was happening in the States as a precaution, but they were just being cautious, there wasn't any specific threats

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toro...p-downtown-toronto-possible-protest-1.5594356

Dozens of retailers, including ones whose stores span entire blocks felt the risk was high enough to justify boarding up their storefronts.

I know most of the riots are in the states but there was a lot of damage in other Canadian cities.

11 arrested, dozens of businesses damaged after Montreal anti-racism rally

It was one of many protests held across North America following the death of George Floyd, who died in Minneapolis last week after pleading for air while a white police officer pressed a knee on his neck.

www.thestar.com

 

[picard102]

Dozens of retailers, including ones whose stores span entire blocks felt the risk was high enough to justify boarding up their storefronts.

So again, no riots happened. Nor were any threatened.

 

[nfitz]

So again, no riots happened. Nor were any threatened.

What's the word to describe someone who makes up stories about fictitious riots and threats at black protests?

Montreal arrests more than that and have more damage anytime the Canadians make the Stanley Cup final. It's normally worse when they win.

Was there much protesting on the TTC?

 

[Northern Light]

I don't know if @smallspy or one our engineers might have insights, but I have a couple of questions around structural works I've seen in the subway lately.

First, Main Station:

Some of the old vertical beans and/or their cross-braces have been replaced by new metal supports. I don't recall seeing these used before in a station.

I'm curious as to the nature of the work, whether these are the new permanent supports and if so, why not the traditional beams? Also, is the TTC going to paint them black to match?

 

[Northern Light]

Second question around structure.

I've been watching the evolving work at Spadina station on the streetcar platform concourse.

My pics from January 31st, 2025:

I examined these from several angles....... I couldn't ascertain they were actually supporting anything. In most locations they don't touch the ceiling, but where they appear to, I don't see any beams or key structure. I assume I'm missing something, but was just curious if others had insights.