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[salsa]

Residents of Humber Bay Shores will be getting a little bit of transit relief.


176 Mimico GO bus service

On June 25, 2018 the TTC will be launching the new 176 Mimico GO service. This one-way bus route will serve TTC bus stops between the Lake Shore Loop and Mimico GO Station every 30 minutes, and will meet with GO train trips during the peak periods. While the bus stops along the route are accessible, Mimico GO Station is not fully accessible.

This 176 Mimico GO service will operate on some streets where the TTC does not currently have service. Currently, there are no direct transit connections between Mimico GO Station and neighbourhoods east of the station, such as Humber Bay Shores. In total, eight new accessible bus stops will be added; these stops will be installed with accessibility features such as new pads and sidewalk connections.

This route accepts regular TTC fare and PRESTO. Save even more with PRESTO when you combine your GO trip with TTC; adults can save $1.50, students and seniors can save $0.55. Customers that are continuing their one-way trip on the TTC after alighting from the GO train can use the TTC transfer from their first TTC ride to board the second vehicle.

TTC, Metrolinx and the City of Toronto recognized a high demand for faster travel into Downtown Toronto and have worked together to provide an affordable alternative to driving for local transit users.

http://www.ttc.ca/Service_Advisories/Service_changes/176_Mimico.jsp

 

[Filip]

Except most of the people this bus is supposed to help live quite a bit east of its route.

You really have to ask yourself how stupid TTC planners are... Those at Park Lawn and points west can easily walk to the station - I say easily because it should be between 10-15 mins. Those east of Park Lawn have to contend with a very long walk and this bus isn't serving them.

 

[Leo_Chan]

Except most of the people this bus is supposed to help live quite a bit east of its route.

You really have to ask yourself how stupid TTC planners are... Those at Park Lawn and points west can easily walk to the station - I say easily because it should be between 10-15 mins. Those east of Park Lawn have to contend with a very long walk and this bus isn't serving them.

There are a few options I can think of to improve the shuttle:

1. If only there was a road connection under the Gardiner that connected The Queensway and Lakeshore Blvd at Palace Pier Court, then a GO shuttle loop to and from there would be better.
2. Instead of a 1-way loop, it should be a 2-way, single route route that goes along the south part of the planned route but extended further east along Lakeshore Blvd to Palace Pier Court
3. Loop around on Lakeshore Blvd and Marine Parade Dr instead of terminating at the Lakeshore/Marine Parade Dr Loop.

 

[pattyrick]

Does anyone remember the timeline on the new bus loop that may be built near Palace Pier?

If that was built, it would help the route a lot, but it would still require:

1) road alterations on the Gardiner Ramp (apparently there are turning issues?)

2) a looping at the GO Station (I'm not convinced the parking lot would be approved as the loop)

No one really benefits with the route. Humber Bay Shores residents need to trek out to the loop for a 30-minute service, and Mystique Point residents have a trip that is marginally faster than walking.

This is one of those transit ideas that could be super successful if they went out of their way to make the needed adjustments, but otherwise it can't be.

 

[Amare]

1. Loop around on Lakeshore Blvd and Marine Parade Dr instead of terminating at the Lakeshore/Marine Parade Dr Loop.

They could have done that theoretically, but they are trying to avoid buses being caught in traffic along the Lakeshore heading eastbound. There's only so much this shuttle can accomplish, and by extending it to Palace Pier it would make it even more of a useless shuttle.

As I said before, the shuttle would only helpful to people in the afternoon peak as it would serve as a more direct connection to Humber Bay compared with the other available options (ie: using the 76 and then transferring to the 501 which in and of itself would add 30 mins to a commute). The shuttle would cut the commute down to 7-10 mins easy.

 

[nfitz]

Except most of the people this bus is supposed to help live quite a bit east of its route.

You really have to ask yourself how stupid TTC planners are... Those at Park Lawn and points west can easily walk to the station - I say easily because it should be between 10-15 mins. Those east of Park Lawn have to contend with a very long walk and this bus isn't serving them.

If only there wasn't a mostly grade-separated Streetcar line along Lakeshore and Queensway from Park Lawn to the end of the 504 pilot into downtown ...

Seriously though, the better solution might simply be restoring the GO station near Parkside.

 

[crs1026]

If only there wasn't a mostly grade-separated Streetcar line along Lakeshore and Queensway from Park Lawn to the end of the 504 pilot into downtown ...

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Hey, you’re supposed to wait until October 17 before you get into that stuff

If the traffic control on the Queensway gave TTC vehicles priority, and the westbound vehicles weren’t all bunched up, and if the Sunnyside to Bathurst section had enforcement on the no-auto zones, this might be a valid way to get people downtown. As it is, it’s a crawl all the way.

Here are some shots from Humber Loop taken today. Looks like thungs are mostly ready to resume service.

- Paul

 

[EastYorkTTCFan]

Actually a lot of track fires are caused by garbage ending up on the third rail. PSDs will reduce a lot of those problems. TTC should stop talking about PSDs as sometime to prevent suicides as people will argue that they should spend the money in mental health instead but as a way to reduce delays and increase reliability.

It's not the TTC that talks about them for suicide prevention its council. I was watching a council meeting where they were talking about the subway extension to Scarborough and a councillor only wanted to know if there would be platform doors for suicide. Staff tried to tell him that it was undecided as they were still doing studies as to whether or not they would just move the suicide problem somewhere else, like what happened with the Bloor Viaduct after the luminous vale was put up,

 

[JSF-1]

Whats the point of STC having Platform doors if Line 2 won't even have ATC installed by then? Obviously the SSE will be built with ATC but Line 2 isn't set to be converted until after the SSE opens. This also means the TTC will need to get rid of its T1's before the SSE opens.

 

[Streety McCarface]

Hey, you’re supposed to wait until October 17 before you get into that stuff

If the traffic control on the Queensway gave TTC vehicles priority, and the westbound vehicles weren’t all bunched up, and if the Sunnyside to Bathurst section had enforcement on the no-auto zones, this might be a valid way to get people downtown. As it is, it’s a crawl all the way.

Here are some shots from Humber Loop taken today. Looks like thungs are mostly ready to resume service.

- Paul

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I wonder if there's a way to make the Humber loop area a fare-paid zone, since the streetcar lines are split and there are a few buses that serve the area.
I'm also wondering if they'd shake up the route names, Humber to Long Branch could eventually be renamed 507, lakeshore could be Long Branch to Neville via King (or even just Humber to Neville via King), and the 501 stays as the line from Humber to Neville via Queen. It would make things easier to understand.

 

[W. K. Lis]

Wonder if the 66B PRINCE EDWARD (MARINE PARADE) could now use the concrete right-of-way to connect to and from Lake Shore Blvd. W. and the Humber Loop?

 

[crs1026]

Wonder if the 66B PRINCE EDWARD (MARINE PARADE) could now use the concrete right-of-way to connect to and from Lake Shore Blvd. W. and the Humber Loop?

I don’t see why not..... what a good idea!

Of course, what struck me today is how little signage the tunnel has, and yet we don’t see the vehicular intrusions that happen on Queens Quay. Hopefully nobody follows a TTC vehicle into the tunnel.

- Paul

 

[Steve X]

At least no cranes are required if some vehicle ended up in there.

 

[SaugeenJunction]

Two TTC MERX contracts that could be of interest. Both kinda mention elements of an expanded streetcar fleet.

P11PZ18817 - G85-368 - DESIGN SERVICES – STREETCAR FACILITY TRACK AND CARHOUSE MODIFICATIONS

• The work of this contract Design Services - Streetcar Facility Track and Carhouse Modifications at Russell Carhouse, includes, but it is not limited to modifications, expansions and upgrades to existing maintenance and shop facilities, upgrading or replacing existing equipment, and electrical and mechanical components to accommodate the future servicing needs of an expanded and potentially mixed streetcar fleet.

P41PZ18803 - VEHICLE PROGRAMS - PROJECT MANAGEMENT, ENGINEERING SERVICES LIGHT RAIL

• Providing a reliable, efficient, accessible service to the customers requires that the infrastructure be maintained in the good condition which is done through State of good repair projects and also through overhaul of existing fleet, procurement of new streetcar and buses to meet the ridership growth and through expansion projects for storage and maintenance of the fleet. In order to meet tight project timelines, the TTC requires the services of several multi-disciplinary consulting firms to provide support to manage a multitude of large and medium scale projects.

 

[EastYorkTTCFan]

The Scarborough RT aka Line 3 has the side signs and the exterior announcements on all of the trains today.