TTC: Other Items (catch all)

[drum118]

As a note, any photos for the new Islington Terminal can only be had by the drome folks as the hole is too far from the street to see what is taking place in it. Only when the terminal hits grade is when you can get shots from the street, The parking lot is total out of the picture for getting shots.

 

[Richard White]

Dec 31
The kiss & Ride with cab space has been paved and strip at Kipling, but not open. The fence will remain up around it until all the construction material is removed. Photos for December are on line, but not last night shots.

Don't know when Warden temporary bus bays are to open, but far from doing so as of last night. Try to get some shots, but mostly ended up with rain on them. The walkway from the bus bay area .to the concourse is not completed as well from the street. Only saw 5 shelters with 2 on Warden at the current entrance and may miss a few due to the rain and darkness. The cab with the Kiss & Ride area is ready to open at the south end as well the bus bays as they are paved and strip. Going be some long walks getting to/from the North Parking Lot, the street and the bus bays to/from the subway,

A big different from what I shot early November 27 to yesterday. The gates to the concourse are not fully install and going to be fund funneling riders in both directions through that narrow gate area.

No idea if they will have washrooms in a portal trailer on site since the washrooms will be gone when the new bus bays open, other than going to Kennedy or Victoria Park stations that have washrooms now. If you look out the window of an westbound train, you can see the new area clearly. Daylight the best time to see it.

All the phots from November 27 are now up on my site which is a lot and still running a month behind with a 1,000 still in my backlog including last night shots.

Dec 31
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Nov 27

I was through here this morning and I agree, barring a small miracle I don't foresee the new entrance being open for Sunday.

Even the PPUDO is not cleared of construction materials yet.

 

[Northern Light]

As a note, any photos for the new Islington Terminal can only be had by the drome folks as the hole is too far from the street to see what is taking place in it. Only when the terminal hits grade is when you can get shots from the street, The parking lot is total out of the picture for getting shots.

@Tim MacDonald took some pics of the site back in early November, I believe, perhaps he would be kind enough to update us.

 

[Tim MacDonald]

@Tim MacDonald took some pics of the site back in early November, I believe, perhaps he would be kind enough to update us.

I flew near it back in mid-December but there was very little visible change so I didn't take a photo. I'll likely do another fly over and take some photos regardless of progress in the next few weeks - wx permitting of course.

 

[Northern Light]

I flew near it back in mid-December but there was very little visible change so I didn't take a photo. I'll likely do another fly over and take some photos regardless of progress in the next few weeks - wx permitting of course.

Thanks, Tim.

 

[drum118]

TTC announces changes to bus service at Warden Station as construction of a new, accessible station begins

Jan. 2, 2025

Customers who take a bus to or from Warden Station, Line 2 Bloor Danforth, will soon notice a change in where their bus picks up and drops off. Starting Sun., Jan. 5, the TTC will operate from a new temporary bus terminal and at on-street stops outside the station as the transit agency prepares to construct a modern, accessible bus terminal with two new elevators.

Five conventional bus routes and Wheel-Trans will operate from the new temporary terminal, built on a converted parking lot steps from Warden Station. Six bus routes will pick up and drop off customers at temporary on-street stops on Warden Ave. Fencing and signage will be installed to guide customers from the on-street stops to the subway, with the furthest stop approximately 250 metres from the station entrance.

Bus routes servicing the new temporary terminal include:
• 9 Bellamy
• 16 McCowan
• 17 Birchmount
• 69 Warden South
• 135 Gerrard
• Wheel-Trans

The following routes will service stops on Warden Ave.:
• 8 Broadview
• 68 Warden / 968 Warden Express
• 102 Markham Rd. / 902 Markham Rd. Express
• 117 Birchmount South

69 Warden South and 117 Birchmount South will continue to operate as one longer continuous route between the St. Clair Ave. East/Kingston Rd. area and Victoria Park Station, via Warden Station. Customers may remain on board buses travelling through Warden Station.

Tap for free transfer at Warden Station

Customers transferring between the subway and on-street stops at Warden Station must validate their free transfer by tapping the same PRESTO, debit, or credit card used to start their trip. The TTC provides a two-hour free transfer window from the first tap. If paying by cash, TTC ticket, or token, customers will need to obtain a paper transfer as Proof-of-Payment and show it to the collector when entering the station, or to their bus Operator.

New, modernized Warden Station will be fully accessible

Warden Station will be completely rebuilt as part of the TTC’s Easier Access program to provide a step-free path from street level to all TTC subway platforms. The upgrades at Warden Station will include installing elevators, accessible doors, ramps, wide fare gates, tactile tiles, ceiling and signage modifications, and modern architectural finishes. While reconstruction will take approximately three years to complete, the TTC anticipates elevators will be in service at Warden Station by the end of this year.

Further information about the Warden Station redevelopment can be found on the TTC website at: https://www.ttc.ca/about-the-ttc/projects-and-plans/Warden

This news release, including links, is available at: https://www.ttc.ca/news/2025/January/TTC-announces-changes-to-bus-service-at-Warden-Station

 

[goodcitywhenfinished]

 

[dowlingm]

New Warden gates (south facing) at 6pm last night (Friday 3rd)

 

[JBR]

Dec 31
The kiss & Ride with cab space has been paved and strip at Kipling, but not open. The fence will remain up around it until all the construction material is removed. Photos for December are on line, but not last night shots.

Don't know when Warden temporary bus bays are to open, but far from doing so as of last night. Try to get some shots, but mostly ended up with rain on them. The walkway from the bus bay area .to the concourse is not completed as well from the street. Only saw 5 shelters with 2 on Warden at the current entrance and may miss a few due to the rain and darkness. The cab with the Kiss & Ride area is ready to open at the south end as well the bus bays as they are paved and strip. Going be some long walks getting to/from the North Parking Lot, the street and the bus bays to/from the subway,

A big different from what I shot early November 27 to yesterday. The gates to the concourse are not fully install and going to be fund funneling riders in both directions through that narrow gate area.

No idea if they will have washrooms in a portal trailer on site since the washrooms will be gone when the new bus bays open, other than going to Kennedy or Victoria Park stations that have washrooms now. If you look out the window of an westbound train, you can see the new area clearly. Daylight the best time to see it.

All the phots from November 27 are now up on my site which is a lot and still running a month behind with a 1,000 still in my backlog including last night shots.

Dec 31
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Nov 27

Warden temp bus bays open Jan5

 

[drum118]

Jan 4
This type of bike is not an E-Bike regardless having an E plate, but more a scooter from my point of view and shouldn't allow on TTC subway trains as they will do more damage than a real bike. The chap was having a hard time getting the bike up the stairs to the bus concourses at Warden tonight and how did he get it up the stairs from the street in the first place. He will not have to worry about doing that after tonight as that section will be block off somewhere around 3am Sunday with the official closing of the terminal. Riders will be in for a nice surprise tomorrow to see how far they will have to walk to/from their buses or the street for the next 20-24 months until the new terminal opens. Even having to stand outside in all types of weather will not be fun as well.

That bike/scooter loves to speed down the bike lanes and seen far too many close calls for hitting people.

 

[DSCToronto]

Jan 4
This type of bike is not an E-Bike regardless having an E plate, but more a scooter from my point of view and shouldn't allow on TTC subway trains as they will do more damage than a real bike. The chap was having a hard time getting the bike up the stairs to the bus concourses at Warden tonight and how did he get it up the stairs from the street in the first place. He will not have to worry about doing that after tonight as that section will be block off somewhere around 3am Sunday with the official closing of the terminal. Riders will be in for a nice surprise tomorrow to see how far they will have to walk to/from their buses or the street for the next 20-24 months until the new terminal opens. Even having to stand outside in all types of weather will not be fun as well.

That bike/scooter loves to speed down the bike lanes and seen far too many close calls for hitting people.
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ABSOLUTELY. There are e-bikes and e-bikes The differences between them need to be more carefully defined by the Province (which would thus apply 'everywhere') for ALL rules & regulations. In my opinion, e-bikes that can use bike lanes and be taken on TTC MUST have workable pedals and the bike must be for one person only and not weigh more than pounds. As in the photo, some are huge, heavy, fast and never pedaled!

 

[rbt]

As in the photo, some are huge, heavy, fast and never pedaled!

California recently declared these types of vehicles were not e-bikes and need to follow scooter/motorcycle rules: ebikes have a 20mph maximum speed (by design, not a trivial to remove governor), 750 watt maximum output, 120kg maximum weight (both bike and battery), and no throttle switch (must use pedals).

They also banned e-bike use for those under 12 years of age. I guess they were being used as dirt-bike alternative which also has a minimum age.

 

[generalcanada]

ABSOLUTELY. There are e-bikes and e-bikes The differences between them need to be more carefully defined by the Province (which would thus apply 'everywhere') for ALL rules & regulations. In my opinion, e-bikes that can use bike lanes and be taken on TTC MUST have workable pedals and the bike must be for one person only and not weigh more than pounds. As in the photo, some are huge, heavy, fast and never pedaled!

Whats funny is that theese things have tiny pedals so they can be kind of called e-bikes.
Theyre motorbikes lol

 

[PinkLucy]

Whats funny is that theese things have tiny pedals so they can be kind of called e-bikes.
Theyre motorbikes lol

Tiny, useless pedals ….

 

[DSCToronto]

Tiny, useless pedals ….

Yes, there needs to be a proper definition! Here is the one from California - from https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/codes_displaySection.xhtml?sectionNum=312.5.&lawCode=VEH see also: https://www.calbike.org/california-e-bike-classifications/

Vehicle Code - VEH​

DIVISION 1. WORDS AND PHRASES DEFINED [100 - 681]​

( Division 1 enacted by Stats. 1959, Ch. 3. )

312.5. ​

(a) An “electric bicycle” is a bicycle equipped with fully operable pedals and an electric motor that does not exceed 750 watts of power.
(1) A “class 1 electric bicycle,” or “low-speed pedal-assisted electric bicycle,” is a bicycle equipped with a motor that provides assistance only when the rider is pedaling, that is not capable of exclusively propelling the bicycle, except as provided in paragraph (4), that ceases to provide assistance when the bicycle reaches the speed of 20 miles per hour, and that is not capable of providing assistance to reach speeds greater than 20 miles per hour.
(2) A “class 2 electric bicycle,” or “low-speed throttle-assisted electric bicycle,” is a bicycle equipped with a motor that may be used exclusively to propel the bicycle, and that is not capable of providing assistance when the bicycle reaches the speed of 20 miles per hour.
(3) A “class 3 electric bicycle,” or “speed pedal-assisted electric bicycle,” is a bicycle equipped with a motor that provides assistance only when the rider is pedaling, that is not capable of exclusively propelling the bicycle, except as provided in paragraph (4), and that ceases to provide assistance when the bicycle reaches the speed of 28 miles per hour, and equipped with a speedometer.
(4) A class 1 or class 3 electric bicycle may have start assistance or a walk mode that propels the electric bicycle on motor power alone, up to a maximum speed of 3.7 miles per hour.
(b) A person riding an electric bicycle, as defined in this section, is subject to Article 4 (commencing with Section 21200) of Chapter 1 of Division 11.
(c) On and after January 1, 2017, manufacturers and distributors of electric bicycles shall apply a label that is permanently affixed, in a prominent location, to each electric bicycle. The label shall contain the classification number, top assisted speed, and motor wattage of the electric bicycle, and shall be printed in Arial font in at least 9-point type.
(d) The following vehicles are not electric bicycles under this code and shall not be advertised, sold, offered for sale, or labeled as electric bicycles:
(1) A vehicle with two or three wheels powered by an electric motor that is intended by the manufacturer to be modifiable to attain a speed greater than 20 miles per hour on motor power alone or to attain more than 750 watts of power.
(2) A vehicle that is modified to attain a speed greater than 20 miles per hour on motor power alone or to have motor power of more than 750 watts.
(3) A vehicle that is modified to have its operable pedals removed.
(Amended by Stats. 2024, Ch. 791, Sec. 2. (SB 1271) Effective January 1, 2025.)



Here are the Ontario ones:.From: https://www.ontario.ca/page/riding-e-bike#section-2

E-bike requirements​

To operate an e-bike in Ontario, the e-bike must have:

• a maximum assisted speed of 32 km/h
• a maximum weight of 120 kg (includes the weight of the bike and battery)
• an electric motor not exceeding 500 watts
• no modifications to the motor to allow it to exceed a power output greater than 500 watts and an assisted speed greater than 32 km/h
• battery and electric motor securely fastened to the bicycle frame to prevent them from moving while the e-bike is operating
• all electrical terminals properly insulated
• minimum wheel width of 35 mm and minimum diameter of 350 mm
• two independent braking systems that applies force to each wheel and is capable of bringing the e-bike, while being operated at a speed of 30 km/h, to a full stop within 9 metres, on a level asphalt surface, from the point at which the brakes were applied

Removing the pedals makes the e-bike a motor vehicle, which requires a licence, insurance and registration to operate. It is also illegal to modify your e-bike's electric motor to make it more powerful or to increase the assisted speed of the bike.