TTC: New Fare Gate Installation

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I think it was mentioned that the TTC is ~15% Presto. I could be wrong though.

If you read the latest )April) CEO Report )page 22) you would see:

Ridership using the PRESTO Farecard (e-purse; period pass) in February was 9.5M, which was 1.3M (16%) above the budget of 8.2M. In terms of year-over year growth, February’s PRESTO ridership of 9.5M was 4.8M (102%) above the ridership of 4.7M for the comparable period in 2017.
Year-to-date to the end of February 2018, ridership was 2.5M (14%) above budget and 11.4M (129%) above the comparable period in 2017.
Analysis The PRESTO component of total TTC ridership continues to grow rapidly. The PRESTO adoption rate increased from 22.4% to 23.2% in February 2018.

The PRESTO adoption rate is expected to accelerate throughout 2018 in conjunction with the phasing-out of legacy fare media and the commensurate uptake of PRESTO-based fare media.

 

[Leo_Chan]

If you read the latest )April) CEO Report )page 22) you would see:

Ridership using the PRESTO Farecard (e-purse; period pass) in February was 9.5M, which was 1.3M (16%) above the budget of 8.2M. In terms of year-over year growth, February’s PRESTO ridership of 9.5M was 4.8M (102%) above the ridership of 4.7M for the comparable period in 2017.
Year-to-date to the end of February 2018, ridership was 2.5M (14%) above budget and 11.4M (129%) above the comparable period in 2017.
Analysis The PRESTO component of total TTC ridership continues to grow rapidly. The PRESTO adoption rate increased from 22.4% to 23.2% in February 2018.

The PRESTO adoption rate is expected to accelerate throughout 2018 in conjunction with the phasing-out of legacy fare media and the commensurate uptake of PRESTO-based fare media.

It would be interesting to see the TTC Presto adoption percentage data graphed with expected adoption projected.

 

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It would be interesting to see the TTC Presto adoption percentage data graphed with expected adoption projected.

Look at page 22 of the last CEO Report, there is a graph there.

 

[Leo_Chan]

Look at page 22 of the last CEO Report, there is a graph there.

Thanks!

 

[applepill]

Is there going to be a transitional period where legacy fare media is still accepted but no longer sold?

Yes. In fact, the TYSSE stations already do not sell legacy fare media, but they do accept legacy face media.

 

[travelgeek]

Not sure what is difference between Phase 1 and Phase 2. They've already done 2 of the 3 entrances, and only the west exit to St George Street itself is left. Which I'd have called at least Phase 3.

I'm guessing that Phase 1 is the side of the entrance that's north of the newsstand. It's currently boarded up. Phase 2 is likely the side that's currently opened up.

 

[Leo_Chan]

Are the gates on the wood just placed there for installation at the other entrance?

 

[Richard White]

I'm guessing that Phase 1 is the side of the entrance that's north of the newsstand. It's currently boarded up. Phase 2 is likely the side that's currently opened up.

I think Phase 2 was the OISE entrance.

 

[Leo_Chan]

From here

The [King Station] commerce court entrance will be done with our easier access construction project. The fare gates won't be available there until sometime next year. I believe this entrance is being staffed open to close so customers can access the temporary PRESTO card readers

 

[mdrejhon]

From here

Makes sense.

We're lucky Toronto plans to complete Easier Access by mid-2020s -- more than a decade sooner than Montreal who has their equivalent elevator projects complete by year 2039.

Inevitably, the decade-ongoing elevator installations at TTC stations creates a construction schedule conflict with faregate installs at a few stations. So it appears that this is one of the "phasing adjustment" casualities of faregate installs. Thankfully, manning + temporary Presto reader comes to the rescue here.

At least all the important stations (including Union) will be fully nicely faregated with lots of redundant Presto Add-Value vending machines by then. With majority of glitches removed by then, mandatorily.

And Presto adoption should still hit within a stone's throw of 90% before the non-Presto Metropasses go poof.

 

[drum118]

May 17
Union

Kipling St Albans Rd Entrance

 

[Streety McCarface]

Which stations currently have old turnstiles still in? I know Wilson still has some high gate exits and Yorkdale has the old turnstiles, but are there any more?

 

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Which stations currently have old turnstiles still in? I know Wilson still has some high gate exits and Yorkdale has the old turnstiles, but are there any more?

This is on TTC website, ( http://www.ttc.ca/Service_Advisories/Construction/PRESTO_construction.jsp ) but it is unclear if they mean all others are finished (except King @ Commerce Court - which we know is 'coming'.)

Stations PRESTO available at all entrances
Station Union Station - north fare line PRESTO available at all entrances May 18
Station Union Station - south fare line PRESTO available at all entrances May 25
Station Union Station - Brookfield Rotunda PRESTO available at all entrances May 28
Station Sheppard-Yonge Station - main entrance PRESTO available at all entrances May 31
Station St George Station - phase one PRESTO available at all entrances June 14
Station St George Station - phase two PRESTO available at all entrances June 25
Station Finch Station - all entrances PRESTO available at all entrances June

 

[Andy T]

Which stations currently have old turnstiles still in? I know Wilson still has some high gate exits and Yorkdale has the old turnstiles, but are there any more?

Castle frank has meatgrinder exits at the end of the bus bay.

 

[TransitBart]

Castle frank has meatgrinder exits at the end of the bus bay.

Ouch. Quite evocative.