TheOneAbove
New Member
So, I suppose now the cherry is popped, so to speak.
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EastYorkTTCFan
Senior Member
I think the new plan now is to have Spadina and harbourfront with them by the summer and then everywhere else gets them in the fall as one or two of them on each route. 514 will have at least two when it officially opens.
pstogios
Senior Member
Every single plan the TTC has made for deployment of these has been altered due to Snake Oil Inc.'s inability to meet their multiple and publicly-communicated commitments.
To anyone betting the performance of Snake Oil Inc. will suddenly turn around, and thus TTC will be able to deploy the new cars as they intend to: I have a bridge to sell you.
To anyone betting the performance of Snake Oil Inc. will suddenly turn around, and thus TTC will be able to deploy the new cars as they intend to: I have a bridge to sell you.
EastYorkTTCFan
Senior Member
Interesting I didn't know there was company called Snake Oil Inc and I didn't know they were manufacturing the Flexs. Just lay off on that stuff it's getting old just like it did when poel posted photos of Peter Witt cars with the same numbers of the new ones.. Everyone know there are problems with the deliveries. Just let the TTC deal with it ok complaining on a forum about it won't do anything to get them her faster or get the TTC to cancel a contract no mater how much people want them too.
drum118
Superstar
From CEO Report
New Streetcar Deployment At the time of writing, 17 new vehicles are now in service. In early March, we were advised by Bombardier that a new CEO has been appointed and I have spoken with him to outline our complete frustration and dissatisfaction with Bombardier’s current performance. At the time of writing, I am unable to confirm a delivery schedule, but it is evident that Bombardier will not hit the four vehicles per month that we were promised as recently as last month.
Failure Rate is up to 17,000 from 12,000, but still below 35,000 requirements
New Streetcar Deployment At the time of writing, 17 new vehicles are now in service. In early March, we were advised by Bombardier that a new CEO has been appointed and I have spoken with him to outline our complete frustration and dissatisfaction with Bombardier’s current performance. At the time of writing, I am unable to confirm a delivery schedule, but it is evident that Bombardier will not hit the four vehicles per month that we were promised as recently as last month.
Failure Rate is up to 17,000 from 12,000, but still below 35,000 requirements
TOareaFan
Superstar
Question for those that know....is there ever a point in time when that testing period once a new vehicle gets here gets shortened? I forget how long it is (60 hours comes to mind) but there must be a point where you say "every vehicle has passed its 60 hours and gone into service so, perhaps, we can shorten it to 30 hours"....or is that just dumb?
Steve X
Senior Member
It's 600km not 60 hours. Can't be shorten, that's beyond dumb
TOareaFan
Superstar
thanks, I guess
smallspy
Senior Member
To put a bit more detail into it...
Each car goes through a battery of tests once it has arrived, culminating in a ~500km road test. If any component fails during the road test, it "resets" the clock so to speak, and forces the restart of the test.
You don't want to shorten that period, but what you will see is that as the vehicles arrive in better and better shape, they will be less and less likely to fail the road test. And in fact, we're seeing that already, as the last couple of units delivered have taken just a week to enter service.
Dan
Toronto, Ont.
pstogios
Senior Member
I think this is a much smarter strategy by Byford. Don't communicate any further "schedules" (very loose usage of the term) since each and every one of them has been missed by Snake Oil Inc. They haven't meant anything.
It's too bad the max the TTC can sue for under the contract is $50M.
pstogios
Senior Member
I cannot take credit for this ingenious and completely appropriate name. That goes to TheTigerMaster.
AlvinofDiaspar
Moderator
Not to be sarcastic or anything, but haven't the TTC been dealing with it for the past two years? At this rate, perhaps the issue should be forced and someone should press the red button.
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salsa
Senior Member
TheTigerMaster
Superstar
Damn. I never would've been expected this. They're usually better than this.
crs1026
Superstar
The really pathetic part is.... here on UT, some of us spent a lot of time treating the 4 a month thing as an actual possibility.
- Paul
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