pstogios
Senior Member
Good news.
Is it possible that we could see *3* LFLRV's in service at any given time? So far this has been too much for the TTC to handle.
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Good news.
Is it possible that we could see *3* LFLRV's in service at any given time? So far this has been too much for the TTC to handle.
nfitz
Superstar
I've checked http://doconnor.homeip.net/TransSee/FleetFind.php?a=ttc&lowrange=4400&highrange=4444&ok=Go many a time and see 4400, 4403, and 4404 in service. Only 2 right now ...
the lemur
Senior Member
The other day there were only two (I think the third was spotted on College), but it's usually been 3: 4400, 4403, 4404.
4401 and 4402 will be heading back to Thunder Bay after testing.
W. K. Lis
Superstar
While 12 new low-floor streetcars is the target number for the 510 Spadina, they'll need spares in the carbarns for maintenance, cleaning, collisions, vandalism, etc..
nfitz
Superstar
With the 18% spares, they would need 2 spares. So 14 streetcars.
If the new schedule holds, they should hit 14 by end of July. So hopefully Spadina will be converted for Pan Am Games.
Assuming they ramp up from 2 to 4 in October we should be at about 30 by year end, and 78 by end of 2016. That would put them ahead of the previous schedule, which only called for 71 by the end of 2016. 204 by mid-2019 and 264 by Fall 2020.
So hopefully the extra 60 cars is in next years budget!
W. K. Lis
Superstar
More likely the CLRV or ALRV streetcars would be used as the "spares", once they get up to 12.
Thought that for the Pan Am games, the low-floor streetcars would have be switched over to the 511/509 routes.
nfitz
Superstar
To some extent initally perhaps. They'll still to do repairs, maintenance, and training.
You'd hope so ... particularly for the Parapan games in August. They are supposed to need 17 for full conversion of 509/511 with no spares. They could be close - particularly off-peak when many of the events will be. But then where there is an event at the Ex, they tend to add extra vehicles.
In April, during the rebuild of the Spadina/College intersection, they'll be running the new streetcars on 509. We could see up to 8 new vehicles on Queens Quay by the end of April. Though 509 only normally required 7-9 CLRVs at peak (or 7 Flexitys), they've scheduled up to 12-15 while 510 isn't running. Though there'll be as few as 5 at some offpeak times, so it's possible the line might be 100% new vehicle at times. Though perhaps Spadina itself might be 100% new vehicle late at night in May.
the lemur
Senior Member
Seems to be back to 2 Flexities on Spadina today. Where is 4403?
smallspy
Senior Member
They have been trying not to put all three cars out every day if they can help it, so that they don't get too far ahead in mileage accumulation compared to the rest of the fleet when they arrive. As more cars come online, they'll be able to "rest" 4400 and 4403 a bit more.
Of course, that's also dependant on how many A's and C's they can put out on a daily basis.
Dan
Toronto, Ont.
TheTigerMaster
Superstar
Is the Commission still trying to get Council to approve the additional 60 cars? I thought (assumed) they gave up on that when they budgeted for the ALRV refurbishment.
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They still want the extra 60 BUT do not need to order them until the 60th new streetcar arrives here so it does not need to be done for another year.
pstogios
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the lemur
Senior Member
So now the number on the front is white ...
smallspy
Senior Member
It has been since 4400 and 4403 were formally accepted and entered service.
Dan
Toronto, Ont.
nfitz
Superstar
The number on the front of 4405 was black when it arrived a few weeks ago. Now it is white.