drum118
Superstar
It was a list that I gave council back in 2005. Hurontario goes back to 2003 to be either an LRT or monorail
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anb
Active Member
This isn’t a bad idea, i think it would honestly benefit Brampton/Malton riders a lot more, despite the Miway 107 express already doing that with the transitway and its amazing routing. Speaking of that however, this would single handly kill any existing built up ridership on the transitway as you have a connection to Renforth and Square One which are the 2 biggest destinations. There is the option of converting the transitway into tracks but there’s also the problem of serving all the stations as well, unless they can possibly fit 2 tracks each side for local/express branches into the ROW.
Bureaucromancer
Active Member
I raised it in another thread that one of the bigger question marks in my mind about a Transitway conversion is whether bus service should be retained. I'll say here that I somewhat lean toward the answer being yes unless there is a full 407/427 build out as rail... And even then I wonder if buses really aren't going to be more effective on this corridor until we see a true capacity crunch.
Which does lead me to the thought that even a single stop extension of UPX to Renforth might be a reasonable interim state for airport access, and could get done a lot quicker than waiting for whatever final centralized hub the GTAA settles on without closing too many doors in terms of reconfiguration later.
drum118
Superstar
You can forget the conversion of the transitway as its for GO Transit, with local transit playing a small part using it regardless the talk of conversion to LRT over time.
Using the numbers back in 2004 EA study, that study clear show it should been an LRT on day one, but those numbers turn out to be for GO system wide after the EA close. Breaking the numbers down by various types of buses including DD, you would be seeing a bus every 15 seconds.
GO plans then was extending the Transitway east in the hydro corridor to Pickering and the west end using the 403 to Hamilton. Mississauga Transit was to see only a small number
Ciarlandini
Active Member
I doubt we extend line 2 westward in the times where we're still running T1 trains, especially without any alternatives or transfer points until Spadina. If a Jane subway/lrt was concrete, the extension would make a bit more sense. The capacity issues that you'd create would likely outweigh the majority of benefits.
Anastasia
Active Member
Where can I find more details about this long-planned spur to Square One? What would this mean for service to the existing Cooksville station?
nfitz
Superstar
Very little around that I'm aware of, but it's listed in the post-25 year plan in the 2008 Regional Transportation Plan (aka The Big Move). But had vanished in the 2018 version (aka 2041 Regional Transportation Plan).
Probably no impact to Cooksville, as presumably it would peel off before that, and follow the alignment that TTC was studying for the Line 2 extension to Square One.
Towered
Superstar
From TTC Capital Budget and 15-year plan (originally posted in the Sherway building thread by @Northern Light )
Ciarlandini
Active Member
Still going to be running T1s on the extension is the best/worst part of this depending on your viewpointFrom TTC Capital Budget and 15-year plan (originally posted in the Sherway building thread by @Northern Light )
Northern Light
Superstar
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No they won't.
The T1s have to be retired by the time the SSE opens as the T1s don't have ATC; and the SSE will.
The new rolling stock is fully funded.
Not clear is whether the Rockets will shift to Line 2 when the new rolling stock arrives; or whether the new rolling stock will head straight to Line 2.
anb
Active Member
TR’s are probably going to be way more useful on the line so hopefully they push for that to happen. I can’t recall how many times i sometimes get confused because not all the platforms are at the same doors for every station and TR’s have the announcements on which side of the door is opening. Also considering how the line gets real busy on one car but half as busy on the next, having one full stretch easy fixes that problem.
Ciarlandini
Active Member
Wait so they won't keep rockets on both lines?
Northern Light
Superstar
The current iteration of the subways on Line 1 are colloquially 'Rockets'.
The T-1s currently on Line 2 do not share that designation.
New rolling stock is funded and in the process of design refinement within the TTC.
What designation, formal or informal that rolling stock will carry is TBD (to be determined)
So far as I know.
@smallspy may have further insight.
Ciarlandini
Active Member
I meant to ask whether the Rockets on YUS were already getting replaced by new rolling stock- you answered that anyway so no worries! It has only been 11 years since and they work quite well for the system, maybe that rolling stock is just more of them to be produced.
Northern Light
Superstar
The new rollingstock will have some changes; not sure to what extent.
And yes, the Rockets will be around for another 20 years or so I imagine.