Johnny Au
Superstar
Don't forget the SEX Lines and the REX Lines!
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JasonParis
Moderator
Somehow missed that. 
doady
Senior Member
Well, if there is Regional Express, it would make sense to have Streetcar Express, right? 
I do think branding is something they will need to think more deeply about. "Light rail" is a technical term, like "heavy rail", and using it as the branding is just lazy. It's doesn't even make sense in Toronto which kept its traditional light rail network and continued to upgrade it with modern light rail features while keeping the "streetcar" branding. The lines will be blurred even more with a Waterfront West Line.
Streetcar Rapid Transit (SRT) might work, but "SRT" was already used for the Scarborough RT.
City already has a strong branding for light rail, it should take advantage. The TTC streetcar is iconic, whether it is the Flexity Outlook or the Canadian Light Rail Vehicle, and I feel like the city is denying its heritage.
I like the way each station has a unique name in Toronto. But at the same time some names don't make sense, like Finch West, the eastern terminus of the Finch West line. People travelling eastbound along Finch West to Finch West? I tried to fix things like that.
I do think branding is something they will need to think more deeply about. "Light rail" is a technical term, like "heavy rail", and using it as the branding is just lazy. It's doesn't even make sense in Toronto which kept its traditional light rail network and continued to upgrade it with modern light rail features while keeping the "streetcar" branding. The lines will be blurred even more with a Waterfront West Line.
Streetcar Rapid Transit (SRT) might work, but "SRT" was already used for the Scarborough RT.
City already has a strong branding for light rail, it should take advantage. The TTC streetcar is iconic, whether it is the Flexity Outlook or the Canadian Light Rail Vehicle, and I feel like the city is denying its heritage.
I like the way each station has a unique name in Toronto. But at the same time some names don't make sense, like Finch West, the eastern terminus of the Finch West line. People travelling eastbound along Finch West to Finch West? I tried to fix things like that.
My computer is Windows 7 but I will keep that in mind if I build a new computer. Illustrator CS2 is quite old and not 100% compatible with Win7, so I doubt it will work with Win 11.
Allandale25
Senior Member
Fantasy Maps reference.
Hi Alex Blackwell if you are seeing this.
Hi Alex Blackwell if you are seeing this.
scottd
New Member
How can you have any meaningful transit map without the UP on it?
JasonParis
Moderator
Yup — we’re entering an era with two competing map systems, sometimes even within the same station, like Finch West. The TTC map should show regional routes too, even if in a lighter hue like Montreal does.
Mihairokov
Senior Member
TossYourJacket
Senior Member
I feel like once GO adopts their planned letter-based line naming system we might finally get regional maps with both GO and TTC.
A.Malik.77
New Member
Alex, if you're reading this, add GO and UP to the maps please!!!
dougtoronto
Active Member
Not a proper map design owing to my lack of graphic design skills lol, but just a musing of what I think could be a great solution for the western extension of the Ontario Line. I had always been in favour of an extension north up Dufferin; however, I think there's great potential in using the Barrie line (when GO RER eventually happens in like 2126... sigh) as both a Dufferin-adjacent line as well as relief for the University line. That's why lately I've started to think about what else could happen west of Exhibition, while also being mindful of not replicating Lakeshore GO service.
In this vision, the line would expand all the way to Jane and Eglinton, completing a U from Eglinton west to Eglinton east, basically, and setting the scene for northward extensions from both ends (in this case, up Jane to at least Finch, in whatever form of transit that becomes in the future). Also although I am personally a fan of tunnelling wherever needed, I think we have to be pragmatic when it comes to funding, so this route also takes advantage of the fact that half of it can be done on existing railways.
My envisioned stops going west after Exhibition would be 'Parkdale' (alternatively also 'Springhurst' or 'Jameson'), 'Sunnyside' (on King immediately south of Queen and Roncy, tied to an overhaul of pedestrian access to the lake), 'Roncesvalles' (right in the middle of the neighbourhood), 'Dundas West', 'Junction' (south of Dupont and Dundas), 'Stockyards' (rail tracks west of Keele), 'Lambton' (St. Clair and Jane), and 'Eglinton Flats' (or whatever that station on the Line 5 extension ends up as).
Looking forward to comments!
In this vision, the line would expand all the way to Jane and Eglinton, completing a U from Eglinton west to Eglinton east, basically, and setting the scene for northward extensions from both ends (in this case, up Jane to at least Finch, in whatever form of transit that becomes in the future). Also although I am personally a fan of tunnelling wherever needed, I think we have to be pragmatic when it comes to funding, so this route also takes advantage of the fact that half of it can be done on existing railways.
My envisioned stops going west after Exhibition would be 'Parkdale' (alternatively also 'Springhurst' or 'Jameson'), 'Sunnyside' (on King immediately south of Queen and Roncy, tied to an overhaul of pedestrian access to the lake), 'Roncesvalles' (right in the middle of the neighbourhood), 'Dundas West', 'Junction' (south of Dupont and Dundas), 'Stockyards' (rail tracks west of Keele), 'Lambton' (St. Clair and Jane), and 'Eglinton Flats' (or whatever that station on the Line 5 extension ends up as).
Looking forward to comments!
dougtoronto
Active Member
This is what I envision the full line looking like. My hope is that this would set the stage for northward extensions up to Jane and Finch on the west side and up to Steeles on the right side.
TwoWheelPoli
Active Member
That routing is begging for northern extensions to Don Mills (Line 4) on the eastern side and to Pioneer Village (Line 1) on the western side!
GrayLake
New Member
Looks cool to me but unfortunately I doubt that we will have stops that are so close together because of how expensive the stations are. If this alignment is selected I think the Parkadale, Roncesvalles, Junction or Stockyards station would be taken out.
It's too bad because simliarly to Go RER, more inner city stations would have a lot of potential to make transit commutes viable in terms of time door-to-door.
Bojaxs
Senior Member
What would you think of including a branch line extending to Mimico from Roncesvalles? Adding a stop at Park Lawn. Perhaps extending it all the way to Humber College on Lakeshore?