This casts even more doubt that you've actually been anywhere in the GTA outside of your own neighbourhood. Are you kidding me?
What, what, what? There is no density in East Mississauga to warrant subways, only Hurontario qualifies for mass transit. If you've actually been anywhere in the GTA you'd know a Hurontario RT from Lakeshore to Queen or better yet to Bovaird aids the bulk of Peel Regionaires far more than miles of underused subways to link this one dense corridor to Toronto, a task easier and more cheaply done via 3 GO stops (Port Credit, Cooksville, Brampton) and an Eglinton-403 BRT.
This is the same issue I had with McCowan-Markville. Let the suburbs run BRT lines to connect with Toronto's hard subways. Our job should be to get these hard subways to the city limits where they'll be of use to the suburbs not amalgamating every place with greater than 50,000 residents with its own line.
Umm...there are hundreds of thousands of residents living immediately north of the Spadina line, and a million to the west.
There's a million people in Rexdale, Humberlea and the Albion industrial fields? If VIVA is any indicator to go by, ridership to VCC or even York U won't be
that high, this is just political innuendo meanwhile the bulk of downtown, Etobicoke and Scarborough suffers through traffic woes.
There are no subway lines at all to JFK, LaGuardia, Newark, or even Teterboro... People do not take the subway to Connecticut.
All I meant was subway and commuter transit are more integrated there, making a cross-state commute not a cumbersome all-day affair. And regardless at least NYC has commuter trains to some of its airports, I'd like to have a direct route to the airport via public transit too, the 192 is too overcrowded, dangerous (you like standing on a bus going 90mph on a bustling highway holding onto luggage?) and shares its bay with 3 other routes adding to the pandemonium.
Do they build multiple subway lines out to protected parkland on the suburban fringe of the city?
It's hypocritical to chastise my end-routes when the current subways *cough- Downsview Parc- cough*- Hydro Corridor trifecta-cough* end in suburban fringes and parklands.
This paragraph proves you've never been to Scarborough. You think losing Ellesmere station is a bad thing?
I go to Scarborough at least 4 times a week, which makes me such a strong advocate for wanting better than to be abandoned at Kennedy then trevass my way east forever and a half on slow buses. If Ellesmere Stn was closer to the Kennedy intersection it'd see higher ppd- the concentration of factory outlets and other branch stores, residential area close by including Mondeo Condos. Even if the 95 bus was allowed to loop a la Lawrence East at least bus riders would spike usage above that of either Midland or McCowan stations easily.
Oh, they'll do much worse.
Worse than having every second train turned back at St Clair West peak and often non-peak too? Yeah, really. Since I'm the only one here that knows the Zoo, MTC, UTSC, 2 Centennial Colleges, Morningside Mall, West Hill-Malvern-Port Union-Highland Creek residents, Centenary Hosp., Sheppard East-Ellesmere-Kingston-Lawrence East blocs, Durham gateway, etc.
will generate 0000s of daily riders in spite of your criticisms; lets just call it a truce then eh? Kennedy to Guildwood to start is very do-able and would be a viable line taking the zillion bus routes along this part of Eglinton off the streets, tell me you see the logic in that!
Your first order of business would be to create a ridiculous subway map, then say you don't actually support half of it, but attack anyone who tries to show you the err of your ways.
Not attack, debate. The only thing I was against was the subway entering the 905 suburbs which is exactly what
you want. Why couldn't a series of regional terminals be just as effective to far-flung pockets of density way out of Toronto's jurisdiction then each pocket getting its own line?
Suburaban lines, running adjacent to already well served GO corridors is far,
far more wasteful than connecting existing 416 areas and its residents to the core.
Europeans and their association with LRT/streetcars should be applauded along with Toronto
Except European systems are newer, faster, go farther, often go underground in the core and aren't limited by farebox collection which in T.O.'s case almost single-handedly funds new expansion while maintaining the current system at the same time.
I am giving you the benefit of the doubt that you've made a mistake on NYC transit (ie. subways to airports, and 'minor airports' whatever that means, subway to CONN)... Technically, GO transit is Heavy rail as well.
Yup, too invested in saving Toronto's system to pay too much attention to NYC beyond a quick glance at the map. Maybe East Asia's a far better model locale to contrast how far behind T.O.'s become.
Saying there's nothing between Dixie and Hurontario is kinda silly. Eastern Mississauga is probably the densest part of the whole city. Especially along Bloor and Dundas.
More people live west of Hurontario, residences don't begin on Dundas til west of Cawthra, but in spite of this a MCC subway would likely work, just not high up on the list of priorities if Sherway gateway is achievable within a matter of short years.
