Rainforest
Senior Member
I'm not sure why Steve used those numbers. But in a presentation on December 18, 2007 by TTC's Superintendent of Streetcar Engineering, they identified that the CLRV crush load was 132 and the ALRV crush load was 205, with new LRV (which hadn't been selected at that point) as approximately 260.
Like Niftz siad, 280 passengers is probably the number of passengers each LRV will be able to carry at crush. I checked the Bombardier technical data, and LRVs for Istanbul can carry 272 passengers at 6 persons per metre squared.
Croydon Tramlink's LRV have a capacity of 208 passengers at 4 persons per metre squared.
I believe a TC LRV will have at least a capacity of 200 passengers, depending on the seating arrangement.
Well, 200 per either LRV or a subway car seems reasonable. The footprints being 74 sq.m. and 73 sq.m. respectively, but of course those are external footprints. Less the width of walls, the cabins, the seats etc, space for standees should be about 50 - 55 sq.m. At 4 persons per metre, that gives 200 or 220 per car.
But 260 in LRV, let alone 280, does not reconcile well with the reported subway car capacity. Unless, somehow they use lower load factor for subway cars than for LRV.
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