Prometheus The Supremo
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comparing christian groups to neonazis brings this argument to a whole new level of ridiculousness. stereotyping to an insane degree. becoming a christian is not the same as joining an antisemitic group. i'm sorry, but i just cannot buy your argument.
and just to be clear, i don't consider myself religious at all, but i am (nominally) catholic, so of course i take offense to others labelling all of christianity or catholicism as antisemitic. it's patently false and discriminatory and i do not accept it.
i was not comparing christian groups to to neo-nazis. not all white pride groups are neo-nazis. besides, it was just an analogy to try to make you understand the logic in my argument.
since you brought up your religion and my former one, you can not deny the fact that the catholic church has been hostile to jews all the way until WWII. and i know you will bring up examples of catholics who did good things to help jews, etc. but those are people who act on their own will just like child abusing priests act of their own will. to attribute the acts of individuals to an organization unless the organization actively supports such acts is wrong and incorrect.
also, being a follower of jesus is not antisemitic. but you can't deny there are existing religious institutions such as the catholic church who have been antisemitic for a very good chunk of their history and religious institutions that have branched off of the reformation can trace their origins back to a rabbid antisemite. their treatment of jews and indifference has been well documented.
of course, and i stress, being a member of these groups does not mean that you are antisemitic yourself. but like i said, if one is a member of a ideological group who has been antisemetic, it's kinda weird to accuse the liberal party for being antisemetic. if one is to play the guilt by association card and say the liberal party is antisemetic, don't be associated to an ideological group yourself who has been guilty for the same thing.
i don't know if i can make this any clearer... but i will try:
conservative MPs have distributed taxpayer-funded pamphlets that suggest the liberals have done some antisemetic things in the past. i'm willing to bet that there's a good chance that these MPs who are making these accusations along with the majority of MPs in the conservative party are part of religious groups who have done antisemetic things in the past. i just find that strange is all i'm saying.
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