adHominem
Senior Member
It saddens me that some people won't be satisfied until they're living in a rendering. All pristine surfaces and manicured lawns. No pesky reminders that life exists outside their bubble: graffiti, factories, poor people.
Redpath needs shipping access, so given the revitalization of the waterfront, that would mean moving Redpath out of Toronto.I think that the government/private developers should make incentives for Redpath to build a new refinery somewhere more appropriate.
Well, it was here first, after all, which makes the argument about "suitability" a bit odd. And while the smell may be problematic (I haven't noticed it being unpleasant when I've briefly visited Sugar Beach), I don't think the visual aspect is necessarily out of keeping -- indeed, Sugar Beach is arguably built with the intention of making the industrial aspect of the waterfront more obvious and accessible, as it "faces" the Redpath dock.The smell and hideous visual aspect of the refinery are not suitable for this area at all
I understand that it provides employment to residents, but so would future retail/office development more suitable for the area. I think that the government/private developers should make incentives for Redpath to build a new refinery somewhere more appropriate. it saddens me how anti-progress some of this forum's members are. What I don't understand is how the city of Toronto can be so picky on the placement of new development while leaving a completely blind eye to the outdated and out of place areas that are really detrimental to the city's image. I suppose they can't be fully blamed though, as some residents would classify a junkyard as a "heritage site" and oppose its removal/relocation.
What I don't understand is how the city of Toronto can be so picky on the placement of new development while leaving a completely blind eye to the outdated and out of place areas that are really detrimental to the city's image
I have never heard anyone mention that sugar factory as detrimental to the city's image except for you just now.
However, I've heard many people mention the green glass condos along the waterfront ruining the city's image since they dominate the most famous view of our skyline.
Progress, right?
Many of my colleagues criticize Redpath for its obnoxious smell
and even more obnoxious architecture
especially since it is located in such a prime area.
most other people do view it as progress (and impressive progress at that).
Many of my colleagues criticize Redpath for its obnoxious smell and even more obnoxious architecture,
On the other hand, while you, a skyscraper enthusiast, might be less than satisfied with the recent condo boom, most other people do view it as progress (and impressive progress at that).
Many of my colleagues criticize Redpath for its obnoxious smell and even more obnoxious architecture, especially since it is located in such a prime area. On the other hand, while you, a skyscraper enthusiast, might be less than satisfied with the recent condo boom, most other people do view it as progress (and impressive progress at that).
Even more obnoxious architecture?!?
More obnoxious than this?
or this?
I'd really like to know what your "colleagues" are into, architecturally speaking--or what they *do*, for that matter...
I don't see a problem with either of those developments, especially since they add so much to the community in terms of livelihood. My colleagues are MDs with little architectural knowledge, and therefore represent the general public opinion on this matter.