barrytron3030
Active Member
Welcome to the Jenga Age.
condovo
Senior Member
Meh. Been there. Done that. Started in NYC. Spread around the world. Now in Toronto. Whatever.
Ramako
Moderator
I'm just curious... what are the examples in New York?
Solaris
Senior Member
cool Jenga condos ~
nonetheless, while I like Pier 27's first 2 towers, I'm not sure if I really like these latter 3 towers, the morphing geometry may be just a bit too much ... it would be nice if towers 3+4+5 related better (in design sense) to towers 1+2
nonetheless, while I like Pier 27's first 2 towers, I'm not sure if I really like these latter 3 towers, the morphing geometry may be just a bit too much ... it would be nice if towers 3+4+5 related better (in design sense) to towers 1+2
yyzer
Senior Member
Very nice indeed!
condovo
Senior Member
It all started in NYC with this...
New Museum of Contemporary Art
http://soulofamerica.com/soagalleries/nyc/museum/NYC-NewMuseum-DKaufman.jpg
'Meh'? Sorry you're bored bored by this, Condovo. Me, I do not understand the mentality that wants every single building to be completely unprecedented. I find it exasperating as it simply cannot happen with any regularity. The truth is that there is nothing quite like this in Toronto, and that most people in Toronto won't know anything about the other examples. In our context this will be somewhat radical and eye-catching.
Of course there are some Toronto buildings, extant and in development - other aA designs particularly - that lead towards this. Spire's south and east balconies are not completely parallel to the walls they cantilever from, but they are so close that it's barely noticeable. The next two towers at the Distillery will have angled and dented balconies, and Market Wharf will push the angles even more and get into the rhythm shown in the designs below...
but none of those projects show such pronounced use of angles, and none feel quite so playful to me as this one does (not that I don't like them). These three new buildings all approach the theme with their own variation, and I appreciate that too. The big question, for me, is the one that Solaris asks: how well will these relate to the earlier phases? For me these renders do not have quite enough information to make a definiteve pronouncement on that.
Anyway, to make it easier for everyone:
EDIT - and I hope the rezoning goes through for the 35 storey point tower: this height will help make the whole project relate better to hotel and condos to its west.
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Automation Gallery
Superstar
I would think so..love the wild design of these buildings, it will definitely be an iconic development on our waterfront. Now if we can only get rid or re-clad the Toronto Star building.
SP!RE
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I'm assuming this is part of East Bayfront/ WDL... not Pier 27. Because I don't see impressive cantilevers here... I just see boredom in the above renderings.
With the above quote, I was hoping for something along the lines of a tower, with large sections that jut out from the side, a la Woonzorgcomplex in Amsterdam:
hbl33
Active Member
IS this really done by aA? I must say, I am enthralled by their radicality incorporated into this setting as opposed to their previous ho-hums with NXT, and that awful one they did Distillery.
khris
Senior Member
Awesome! The tower will look really good with the other buildings. Lucky people who get to live in these places.
alklay
Senior Member
aA: The Drunken Years.
condovo
Senior Member
Okay. Good points, interchange42. I just wish precedents happened here for a change. Is that too much to ask? What would it take? I mean, Toronto's ranked as +/- the 10th most important city in the world right now so what's the deal?
Okay, and I concur with that sentiment.
On one hand I am just glad that some experimentation is taking place here, on the other I wish more trailblazing were going on here too. I continue to hope that Absolute World, as it grows, will become too prominent for any local builder to ignore: I am certain that it will become quite famous, and sought after. At some point developer X will try something as daring in Toronto, and the race will be underway.
In the meantime, as we inch forward, I'm happy we're going forward. By some stoke of fate we live could live in (uh, who to offend?), Detroit. Count your blessings.
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On one hand I am just glad that some experimentation is taking place here, on the other I wish more trailblazing were going on here too. I continue to hope that Absolute World, as it grows, will become too prominent for any local builder to ignore: I am certain that it will become quite famous, and sought after. At some point developer X will try something as daring in Toronto, and the race will be underway.
In the meantime, as we inch forward, I'm happy we're going forward. By some stoke of fate we live could live in (uh, who to offend?), Detroit. Count your blessings.
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Sepiraph
New Member
Absolute World is great ... but unfortunately it can be easily ignored since it is in Mississauga.