ksun
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Hamilton probably doesn't fare well with their two way streets either?
Comparing Hamilton to Toronto doesn't give us any reasonable insights about city planning.
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Hamilton probably doesn't fare well with their two way streets either?
Comparing Hamilton to Toronto doesn't give us any reasonable insights about city planning.
Red October
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I was thinking about the Yonge/Bay dynamic if we were to make them one-way. It would be logical to have Yonge going north and Bay going south, but that would take away the awesome Old City Hall vista you get going north on Bay street.
You'd still get it as a pedestrian, but it's a shame you don't see the Adelaide vista to the west and it would be the same with Bay at Queen.
confusion
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I agree, it would be a shame to lose that vista driving, but if Bay was ever to become one-way, it would only make sense to do so as Southbound. Instead of Yonge going Northbound, I think Church Street is a better choice with Yonge going pedestrian.
ksun
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Now we have to consider the view for the drivers. WoW. Cars ARE the king here.
Hardly any drivers care about the view. Actually they shouldn't as it might be dangerous.
salsa
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The article clearly shows the benefits of conversion to two way streets. Hamilton is not the only city that would agree.
kotsy
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MafaldaBoy
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16 May 2014:
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Ryerson Student Learning Centre by MafaldaBoy, on Flickr
Ryerson Student Learning Centre by MafaldaBoy, on Flickr
Ryerson Student Learning Centre by MafaldaBoy, on Flickr
Ryerson Student Learning Centre by MafaldaBoy, on Flickr
Ryerson Student Learning Centre by MafaldaBoy, on Flickr
Aura & Ryerson Student Learning Centre by MafaldaBoy, on Flickr
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Ryerson Student Learning Centre by MafaldaBoy, on Flickr
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TheTigerMaster
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Is this part of the Yonge Street Planning Framework? Does anyone know what's going on with that? I haven't seen anything in a while.
It's not the only city that would agree, but the article is too simplistic. The article touts the benefits, but it doesn't prove its argument, it merely takes every speaker at their word.
The article talks about one ways a method to move more traffic through the city, whereas we are looking at one ways to move more pedestrians along these streets. The amount of pavement dedicated to cars would decrease. The timing of lights can ensure that one-way roads move no more quickly than the traffic did before on two-way configuration.
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salsa
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It's not part of the planning framework. I found this here.
I suppose one way could work as long as cars don't go too fast, although I rarely see successful examples of it (outside of NY). I remember DMW proposed converting Yonge and Bay streets to one way, and he got some criticism for it.
Ste-Catherine in Montreal works very well from what I have seen. Certainly better than its opposite number, de Maisonneuve. To my eye the difference is the popular, fine grained retail on Ste-Catherine, whereas de Maisonneuve feels more like Bay, fronting larger buildings, little on street retail. Yonge could work similarly well, Bay might take more intervention to calm it.
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junctionist
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Traffic on Yonge generally isn't that bad except at rush hour. Yonge is easy to replace in a commute with plenty of alternative routes.
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vatche
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This building is very funky. I dig it.
taal
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Its interesting, I found the initial renderings made this whole building seem larger then it turned out to be, I really don't find it that imposing on this stretch.
I think the reason being there are no visible floors in the tradtional sense (which you see on just about all types of developments) which makes it hard to judge scale, particularly in renderings at odd angles.
I think the reason being there are no visible floors in the tradtional sense (which you see on just about all types of developments) which makes it hard to judge scale, particularly in renderings at odd angles.