SkylineHorizons
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What in bloody blue blazes is going on with all these recent plane crashes???
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Toronto Pearson International Airport
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Richard White
Senior Member
It's not Y2K so I'm going to go with rats chewing wires
Admiral Beez
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drum118
Superstar
Washington was human error by the military helicopter being too high
Today was mother nature with its gusty winds from the north and the plane landing going west. That is a light airplane and the winds caught it just as it was to a touchdown and flip it.
Adjei
Senior Member
Please stop with this DEI crap.
nfitz
Superstar
More likely FUI rather than DUI - Flying under the influence.
It's not necessarily that simple. There's a lot of systems and rules in place, so that one mistake doesn't cause a disaster. Did air-traffic control miss something? Were there systemic failures in flight-paths being too close to not allow for small errors (I'm asking this rhetorically).
But should they have been using that runway in those winds for that type of plane? Were there enough indications to the pilot before the wing touched the ground, that they should have pulled up? (again rhetorically) There's lots of factors and whose to say what all went wrong (other than a wind gust) - it will be interesting to see the reports.
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Admiral Beez
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Apologies if you feel triggered, but I was just trying to bring some humour to a sad day. And we may well see Trump repeat this ridiculous claim after any airline mishap.
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ey2470
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Adjei
Senior Member
No problem. I thought you were being serious, lol.
crs1026
Superstar
I did chuckle at how the Canadian media tended to headline their articles with “Delta airliner flips
Over” while US media headlned with “Airliner crashes in Toronto”. A subtle bit of shading.
And I felt for the PR people at Air Canada when they saw much of the media running a long telephoto shot of the downed plane (the only clear shot anyone could get in a hurry) with a hangar with a giant AIR CANADA logo on it ….. product placement is unfortunate some times.
- Paul
Over” while US media headlned with “Airliner crashes in Toronto”. A subtle bit of shading.
And I felt for the PR people at Air Canada when they saw much of the media running a long telephoto shot of the downed plane (the only clear shot anyone could get in a hurry) with a hangar with a giant AIR CANADA logo on it ….. product placement is unfortunate some times.
- Paul
lenaitch
Senior Member
We're all going to have to wait for the TSB report. Not to sound like a pilot - cuz I'm not - but one interviewed on CTV said that the winds were within aircraft limits, and they were from 270* so landing at 230*, their relative crosswind bearing was much diminished. The one thing I did notice from a couple of the clips was there was little to no flare just before touchdown.
lenaitch
Senior Member
Two high-profile incidents does not a pattern make. Just scanning the TSB page of reports shows that there are more than we realize through the media. And that's just reports. They triage incidents so not everything that is reported to them gets a full bore investigation. You used to be able to view 'incidents' (everything reported to them) but I don't see where you can do that now.
W. K. Lis
Superstar
Dramatic video shows plane crashing and flipping over in Toronto
evandyk
Senior Member
Toronto Pearson Fire Chief Todd Aitken said "the runway was dry and there was no cross-wind conditions".
Toronto plane crash: All passengers survive Delta flight which flips on runway
Eighteen of the 80 people on board were injured after the Delta plane overturned on landing.
www.bbc.com
stevedean
Active Member
People seem to have forgotten the other plane crash in Philadelphia recently...
All American airlines/flights - it absolutely could be a pattern. And may very well have to do with the sudden cuts to personnel once Trump took office.
All American airlines/flights - it absolutely could be a pattern. And may very well have to do with the sudden cuts to personnel once Trump took office.
