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Red_Bulmer
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I'm very baffled by this one. Why not just put it in one of the buildings at the corner of Pape? Really destroying the gorgeous historical streetscape. Why does this require such a behemoth chunk of the city? It's as big as suburban GO Station. Also what is with the material choice for the outside? That wood sticks out in a bad way and is going to need constant upkeep, anything else would have been a better choice. I'm really pissed off about this one. The Scotiabank on the corner would have been an obvious and ideal location.
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The reason they are putting it where they are is that the station box is underneath where they'll be removing that building, not underneath Pape itself. Here's the neighbourhood context map:
Meanwhile, no way that'll be wood. Plus, here's hoping this is designed for a building to rise above it.
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Red_Bulmer
New Member
So? The underground station building could be right there and there could very easily be a diagonal walking tunnel to the corner where an entrance is, it's a shorter distance than to the other station. Could they not build the station box without having to cut and cover? We have stations with long walking tunnels on University Avenue. Why would we want 2 subway entrances both on the Northeast corner?
xy3
Active Member
Seems like wasted space to not incorporate it into a purpose built rental or mixed use tower.
ChesterCopperpot
Senior Member
TossYourJacket
Senior Member
Red October
Senior Member
Whyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy. This would be as baffling as some of the ECLRT station decisions. If the London Underground can incorporate station entrances while maintaining good unbroken retail stretches in the 1800s we can in the 2020s.
innsertnamehere
Superstar
there isn't a formal Transit Oriented Community plan released here yet, but I strongly suspect there will be one as Metrolinx is expropriating basically the entire block.
marcus_a_j
Senior Member
The most important aspect about this station is how the transfers between Line 2 and OL are dealt with. While ensuring that the station can support additional above and that there's an entrance on Danforth are important elements, these take a back seat to the transfer between lines IMO. The whole point of the OL/Relief Line is to intercept riders going downtown before getting to Yonge/Line 1. Obviously not all riders will transfer lines at Pape, but many will whether they are going to Union, East Harbour or anywhere else along the OL.
torontologist
Active Member
Absolutely praying for a 20-30 storey TOC build here to set a new precedent for the Danforth.
“If you build it, they will come.”
“If you build it, they will come.”
Derek Pearce
New Member
Seems like it takes away too much from the existing retail streetscape. If they could build tall rental above and have more retail at ground floor it’d be better for the neighbourhood.
JasonParis
Moderator
Personally, I love seeing Line 2 (and 3's) presence on the Danforth finally. I don't think there's a single Danforth-facing head house on the TTC until now.
Ward8
Active Member
I just find the GIANT setback offensive. The basic functionality of the street is wonderful and lively. Having a random inset will disrupt the streetwall in negative ways. If the buildings beside it were designed with a plaza in mind it would maybe work, but this isn't great compared to the other stations. They'd be better off having the "setback" take place inside the eventual station if they think they need the room.
junctionist
Senior Member
In Montreal, I've seen street vendors selling small items like handmade jewellery using plaza space in front of Metro stations. That sort of thing might work here or even a farmer's market.