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[Kitsune]

Its interesting to note that Vancouver's broadway subway, an underground extension of Millennium Line along Broadway is going to have a 40 fed, 40 prov, 20 city split. Could we see a similiar split for the Relief line ?

 

[TheTigerMaster]

Its interesting to note that Vancouver's broadway subway, an underground extension of Millennium Line along Broadway is going to have a 40 fed, 40 prov, 20 city split. Could we see a similiar split for the Relief line ?

That's exactly what Mr. Tory proposed, and I believe it to be highly likely. When does the Province table their budget?

 

[Kitsune]

That's exactly what Mr. Tory proposed, and I believe it to be highly likely. When does the Province table their budget?

April 27th, so in a week and a half. The extension in Vancuver will be 5.1km of tunnel, 6 underground stations and .9km of elevated to tunnel. All for 2 billion from what I've read, which I believe once the official cost come out it'll jump a lot.

 

[nfitz]

Its interesting to note that Vancouver's broadway subway, an underground extension of Millennium Line along Broadway is going to have a 40 fed, 40 prov, 20 city split. Could we see a similiar split for the Relief line ?

I think it will all be up in the air. The feds committed about $2.2 billion for Vancouver, of a $5.5 billion total budget. It's not clear where the remaining 20% is coming from - although it's 100% within Vancouver, I'd think there would be calls for regional contribution - wasn't there regional, including Vancouver, contribution for the previous Millennium line extension in the east, that was 100% not in (and no where near) Vancouver?

At the same time, the feds have given over $1.8 billion for the Toronto RER, compared to the $13.5 billion from Ontario (or is it now only $11.7 billion ...), and $3.8 billion from the City. On the other hand, the City has committed to the Province that it will pay 100% of the Crosstown West extension to Renforth. And the province is paying 100% of the Eglinton line. Meanwhile the new "LRT" project in Montreal is 24.5% federal and provincial, with 51% funded privately (assuming the feds sign on). There is no municipal component.

Doesn't seem to be any set formula really. It's all project specific.

The $5.5 billion is for both the Surrey LRT project (which was most recently estimated at $2.6 billion) and the 5.5 km Millennium line extension of 6 stations (for which there hasn't been any recent estimates). Which presumably means the budget for that is now $2.9 billion - or over $500 million per kilometre. Compare that to the $3.2 billion for the 8.6 km, 6-station Spadina extension, that requires wider tunnels for the wider trains. I guess that will put an end to the Vancouver is always cheaper chorus.

 

[BurlOak]

Compare that to the $3.2 billion for the 8.6 km, 6-station Spadina extension, that requires wider tunnels for the wider trains. I guess that will put an end to the Vancouver is always cheaper chorus.

I think Vancouver will learn the lesson from Eglinton. Even if you provide tunneling to reduce disruption, the stations that are over 100m long and space less than 1 kilometer apart still cause a lot of disruption, and the disruption time is greatly increased. Essentially you spend double the money for nothing and still get complaints for disruption.

 

[M II A II R II K]

Perhaps a longer DRL could be in the first phase if it were referred to an East York Subway.

 

[Leo_Chan]

Perhaps a longer DRL could be in the first phase if it were referred to an East York Subway.

That's not a good idea as naming a subway based on a location of the city (not street) is bad public vision. Jut look a the Scarborough Subway Extension and Downtown Relief Line.

 

[M II A II R II K]

Then perhaps East York & City Line, or Don Mills & City Line.

 

[Hopkins123]

Then perhaps East York & City Line, or Don Mills & City Line.

Don Mills-Pape-Queen (DPQ) Subway Line

 

[BurlOak]

Perhaps a longer DRL could be in the first phase if it were referred to an East York Subway.

Perhaps if they found a less expensive technology they could build more length for the same cost.

 

[TransitBart]

Though I thought the bus plan for after the Eglinton line opens, didn't have any service on Eglinton - at least west of Laird. But perhaps I've forgotten, and I've also forgetten where that map was now.

This what you are looking for?

https://ttc.ca/About_the_TTC/Commis...Routes_in_Eglinton_Corridor_for_Line_5_Ra.pdf

 

[nfitz]

Ah, that's it - thanks. Hmm, and I guess they are planning a 34 Eglinton bus all the way from Mount Dennis station to Science Centre station.

 

[M II A II R II K]

Perhaps beyond that the busses can run on the tracks and stop at the platforms along with the LRTs.

 

[nfitz]

Perhaps beyond that the busses can run on the tracks and stop at the platforms along with the LRTs.

On the grass ...

 

[kotsy]

Then perhaps East York & City Line, or Don Mills & City Line.

Is that a nod to London's Hammersmith & City line?