And why would Harper be like that on a stadium.
Why wouldn't he be like that?
The Argos don't make money. They didn't get good attendance when they were winning either. And even if they were, they would be looking for a suburban stadium(Did the York and U of t Projects just disappear from you mind?) And the Argos would not sell out 40k anyway. It would need to be 25-30 at MOST. The Argos will get their own stadium at this point in a outer borough.
The Argos don't lose much money either, and could be no worse than a break-even proposition after the next TV deal. And if the price was free, I'm sure the Argos could easily live with being the prime tenant in a stadium on the waterfront, which is where their current stadium is, and where their previous stadium was.
And then you bring the patriotism argument, which is meaningless in a discussion of money. The CFL is of lesser skill and some of us don't want to watch that. Just like Winnipeg is tired of the AHL and wants the NHL. Should they be happy just because it's hockey? No. And I would not want that for them.
I feel there is no patriotic argument. You want there to be one. After you told me you are not trying to force anybody to watch the CFL. Make up your mind, you cannot invoke the CFL at will when you feel like it.
We're talking about a potential Olympics, and an Olympics in any country is an exercise in nation-building, which by definition involves patriotism -- did you miss Vancouver? Whether you like it or not, the CFL has been a seamless fit with that model. Edmonton, Vancouver, Hamilton, Montreal and Winnipeg have all received new or upgraded stadiums by way of Olympic, Pan-Am or Empire/Commonwealth Games.
Just because you like football but have conniption fits when the word "Canadian" gets put in front of "football", that's your problem. I can't help it if you live in Canada but also hate Canada (especially the West apparently) and certain Canadian sports institutions. That's a complex you'll have to overcome on your own. I'm not qualified to counsel rabid Toronto NFL marks, most of whom, by the way, actually live outside the City of Toronto.
Is someone actually putting a gun to your head and personally making you watch CFL football? Because if there is, call the cops! Otherwise, you are free to change the channel.
Again, I was speculating on what might happen in the event Toronto got the Olympics, and I am able to put aside my personal preferences, Clearly you can't.
The Roughriders were about to blow 450 million on a stadium. Federal Tax Money. A CFL stadium. That is just as much a boondoggle as a Toronto NFL Stadium. It got stopped.
So you're saying the Feds were this close to giving them money? Really?? But at least that comment isn't as bad as your asinine claim that the Saints came very close to coming to Toronto in 1994.
For the record, there was speculation whether Ottawa would contribute to a future Regina football stadium (and a hockey arena in Quebec City), but it has never come close to reality.
You are saying that you want the Argos to get a 40k from a potential Olympic effort when their owner, the same guy who owns the BC lions as already said he does not want to move from the Rogers Centre.
Why would he say anything right now about an Olympics bid that doesn't even exist, and probably won't as long as Ford is Mayor? He's dealing with reality, not speculation, and he was very wise to say that his team will stay in the Dome for the immediate future.
Let's face facts: You are a CFL fan trying to Masquerade as fair and balanced when you are not. You probably support the Blue Jays and then turn around and be against this, which despite all your strawman arguments makes you a hypocrite. The western canadians disrespect us all the time, regardless of whether we embrace the CFL or not, so it won't matter. Who else are they going to vote for. Tell me. I want to know their alternative to Harper. The truth is you do not hear that much buzz around it in general in the Toronto Area, whether that is due to marketing I don't know but that's how I see it. You want to tell me there is a difference between the CFL and AHL? Fine, except for the fact a) the CFL was about to die 15 years ago, the AHL was not and b) that would make you a liar.
Unlike you, I like the CFL, NFL, NCAA, CIS, etc. because I like football. I don't like football because I like the NFL. Some people actually have an appreciation of the sport, and aren't easy marks who only follow what gets the most hype.
As for the rest, you are ranting like a petulant child again.
Could all the NFL fanboys please move to Buffalo, help them keep their team in place when the owner dies, and quit with the 'let's spend someone else's money so I can not afford a ticket in Toronto, instead of not being able to afford a ticket in Buffalo'?
NFL tickets are actually a lot cheaper in Buffalo.