Toronto King-Liberty GO Station | 21.39m | 3s | Metrolinx | WSP

Apr 18, 2024

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SaugeenJunction said:
Yes, it will be great. The UP Express won’t stop here, but the GO Pearson Line will.
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The UPX is essentially GO's Pearson line. Not stop is planned for here, but if I remember the public meeting correctly, it could conceivably be added.
 
ProjectEnd said:
Is this the stupid express / local service that was announced and quickly walked back last week?
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I believe it's more the plan to wrap it into a regular GO service as a part of the GO expansion program. Needs some decent capital spending to do it though so it will be a few years before it happens.
 
innsertnamehere said:
I believe it's more the plan to wrap it into a regular GO service as a part of the GO expansion program. Needs some decent capital spending to do it though so it will be a few years before it happens.
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SaugeenJunction said:
Yes this is what I am referring to!
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Are we able to get rid of the Nippon Sharyo lemons as part of this?
 
innsertnamehere said:
I believe it's more the plan to wrap it into a regular GO service as a part of the GO expansion program. Needs some decent capital spending to do it though so it will be a few years before it happens.
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Knowing Toronto, the new UPX will be a regular, lumbering diesel GO train that gives strong Tim Hortons vibes (folksy and depressing). It will have an erratic schedule and you will connect to it from the airport by a perpetually-delayed bus.

We will dismantle the spur that we just built 10 years ago after a brief discussion about turning it into either a linear park or a busway. Travel times to and from downtown will triple and we'll all accept that there was apparently no other option.
 
cereal said:
I don't understand why they would push the west overpass even more west. The original plan had it functioning as a pedestrian overpass with a direct path between Queen West and King West via Abell to the north and Joe Shuster south. The revised position is now roughly 100meters offset from any north/south streets. It dumps you out midblock on both sides. That is super annoying.

Also, does any one know why Metrolinx expropriated and demolished 99 Sudbury? They said it was because of this station but none of their plans make any use of that land.
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It seems obvious to me that there was never any intention to use that land for a station. Even the renderings hide it as a one story building which is certsinly not going to be the case. The entire purpose is development of that valuable land, and metrolinx gets cut in with a throwaway bridge to make it look like a public project. It may also be the case that moving the bridge means it can never become a station if there’s some outcry later about it becoming a condo. It’s still nice of course to get a new station, and there are always public/private partnerships that can make sense. But it does irritate me that there isn’t transparency on the real plans and we get this decoy station first. Why not just be honest and show the true development plans and call it what it is.
 
cereal said:
The revised position is now roughly 100meters offset from any north/south streets. It dumps you out midblock on both sides. That is super annoying.
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I know this is an old resurfaced comment but I want to highlight the site context for others. The bridge could not easily be relocated further east as the ROW is squeezed thin.

Yes the entrances are offset from vehicle paths, but there are many direct walkable paths from Queen using this entrance location. The biggest obstacle on the south is the city yard on King, I doubt there are any city plans to modify this site.
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It would be great if the proposed apartment block next door at King and Dufferin could provide some public access between King and Laidlaw but it would need coordination with neighbouring property owners.
 
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