Willybru21
Senior Member
More service resiliency, additional passing locations, etc
Toronto GO Transit: Davenport Diamond Grade Separation | ?m | ?s | Metrolinx
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crs1026
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Cash flow, cost of materials and labour, resource loading, and derisking..... if the whole project.coasts towards some immovable future milestone, then any delay or unforeseen problem that arises later will delay the end date.
One doesn't want to see major investments built but not used (401/409 tunnels on the Kitchenerline, for instance)... but this is not the place for a "just in time" strategy. The more that gets built sooner, the easier it will be to get the rest done later.
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dowlingm
Senior Member
That’s worth some money but how much money is it worth, is what I’m saying. The other consideration is whether only having one live track for now reduces the need for slow orders or possessions at construction locations like Bloor-Lansdowne station.
Northern Light
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RFI-2024-APFZ-130 - RFI-2024-AFPZ-130: Davenport Public Realm Project
Metrolinx - Abstract - RFI-2024-APFZ-130 - Rfi-2024-afpz-130: Davenport Public Realm Project
www.metrolinx.merx.com
What I find curious is the very brief length of time this tender is in the market.
Published: Oct 3rd, Closes : Oct 9th.
I'm not making any accusations, but it strikes me as the sort of thing one might do if one was giving preference to a particular vendor, and maybe leaked that this was coming.....
Six days is not long for the project to get noticed, give the company a chance to look over the project, ask questions and submit a bid.
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ProjectEnd
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My understanding is electrification of the Barrie Line has dropped significantly in priority in the latest round of design / costing.
generalcanada
Senior Member
You could also read that as instead of every line being electrified at the same time, other lines like LSE and LSW get full electrification first before barrie and KW
Northern Light
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Not that the very knowledgeable PE should require any affirmation by me; but I will chip in FWIW, this aligns with my own understanding.
nfitz
Superstar
Another possibility is that there's no point electrifying at once, as they've still got a lot of diesel equipment with plenty of life left in it. So might as well do one (or two?) lines later.
Northern Light
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crs1026
Superstar
There is a condition in the Davenport flyover EA that limits the number of diesel trains per day over the flyover. But perhaps now that it's built, and the community has some experience with what the impacts are and aren't..... that might be relaxed somewhat.
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generalcanada
Senior Member
Ther is a big difference between service and electrification. Though wasnt there a promise that no service improvements would come before the line was electrified? or was that for the davenport area only?
Northern Light
Superstar
Correct.
The limit was 36 trains per day, the current schedule is 32 for GO, I don't know if any freights are accounted for in that number.
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I'm not clear from reading the EA if the limit has legal force and effect or is a voluntary commitment.
Its a rather large document to peruse.
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crs1026
Superstar
IIRC The Minister's approval letter at the conclusion of the EA contained the limitation.
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smallspy
Senior Member
And there was a condition in the Georgetown Expansion EA that every train through Weston was to be powered with a locomotive that meets EPA's Tier IV emissions standards or better.
And yet, here we are.
Dan
dowlingm
Senior Member
It would be good if people could take the assurances provided by government agencies as being honest, no? And even they have not been in the past, that they could start?