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[kev1n1m]

they wasted all that money on useless bike lanes c/w curbs and marker posts on ferrand yet neglected to deal with eglinton which will have 100x more traffic. big fail on city planning

Sorry but separated bike lanes that protect me and my family from entitled drivers are never useless. No matter how little YOU may use them.

 

[cplchanb]

Sorry but separated bike lanes that protect me and my family from entitled drivers are never useless. No matter how little YOU may use them.

i invite you to spend a day at Ferrand drive to count how many bikes that use these bike lanes which include:
-concrete curbs throughout the entire stretch
-custom painted curbs on rochfort
-bendy markers throughout the entire stretch
-painted lanes including a bike LEFT TURN LANE

i agree we can have painted lines or markers to slow traffic down but to have ALL of the above in a neighbourhood that barely bikes let alone has much vehicular traffic, where meanwhile Eglinton merely has painted lanes shows how mismanaged priorities are. my office overlooks the entire ferrand stretch so i can see first hand how little its used. its simply a lobbyist exercise gone too far.

 

[reinventingthewheel]

i agree we can have painted lines or markers to slow traffic down but to have ALL of the above in a neighbourhood that barely bikes let alone has much vehicular traffic, where meanwhile Eglinton merely has painted lanes shows how mismanaged priorities are. my office overlooks the entire ferrand stretch so i can see first hand how little its used. its simply a lobbyist exercise gone too far.

I understand your perspective on the low usage, but also consider the low (non-existent) usage of the nearby Science Centre LRT station – they’re heavily correlated. I argue that the cycle infra priorities would be inverted had this opened more timely (the cycling infrastructure folks certainly couldn’t forecast these delays).

Cycling routes parallel to rapid transit are still useful, but cycling routes that branch out from rapid transit stations are even better. They increase the catchment area of stations by making them more accessible in less time.

With the LRT in service eventually, Bikeshare will likely be rolled out in the area too.

 

[cplchanb]

I understand your perspective on the low usage, but also consider the low (non-existent) usage of the nearby Science Centre LRT station – they’re heavily correlated. I argue that the cycle infra priorities would be inverted had this opened more timely (the cycling infrastructure folks certainly couldn’t forecast these delays).

Cycling routes parallel to rapid transit are still useful, but cycling routes that branch out from rapid transit stations are even better. They increase the catchment area of stations by making them more accessible in less time.

With the LRT in service eventually, Bikeshare will likely be rolled out in the area too.

time will tell... there actually is a bike share station right at the intersection. we will see how it will turn out in the next few years but imo they still went way overboard from one extreme to another on this stretch

 

[zang]

i invite you to spend a day at Ferrand drive to count how many bikes that use these bike lanes which include:
-concrete curbs throughout the entire stretch
-custom painted curbs on rochfort
-bendy markers throughout the entire stretch
-painted lanes including a bike LEFT TURN LANE

i agree we can have painted lines or markers to slow traffic down but to have ALL of the above in a neighbourhood that barely bikes let alone has much vehicular traffic, where meanwhile Eglinton merely has painted lanes shows how mismanaged priorities are. my office overlooks the entire ferrand stretch so i can see first hand how little its used. its simply a lobbyist exercise gone too far.

They likely wouldn’t be there if there wasn’t a study showing a number of cyclists already using the route. Toronto has rarely been (or even able to afford to be) an “if you build it, they will come”-city. Almost everything the city does seems to be reactionary.

Besides which, drivers seem to expect bike lanes to look and act like car lanes; that if the cars are packed and moving slowly, the bike lanes should be the same. The fact is, because bike lanes flow so well, and because bikes are so small relative to cars, the same amount of cyclists will never seem the same as the number of drivers. It very much creates the illusion that bike lanes are “barely used”.

Frankly though, if people don’t like waiting in traffic, they should really bike.

 

[A_Faulty5]

Community Documents - Eglinton Crosstown LRT

Community Documents for Eglinton Crosstown LRT

www.metrolinx.com

So this is happening... Not sure if it's much of a big deal though. I was wondering if anyone saw the documents before they were withdrawn or has inside information. The internet Archive isn't working at the moment so It's not looking like we can use that.

 

[smallspy]

Community Documents - Eglinton Crosstown LRT

Community Documents for Eglinton Crosstown LRT

www.metrolinx.com

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So this is happening... Not sure if it's much of a big deal though. I was wondering if anyone saw the documents before they were withdrawn or has inside information. The internet Archive isn't working at the moment so It's not looking like we can use that.

Both documents are still viewable here: https://www.metrolinx.com/en/about-us/document-centre

https://assets.metrolinx.com/image/upload/Images/Metrolinx/Eglinton%20Crosstown%20LRT/DELAYED_Notification_Tunnel_Ventilation_Test_Laird.pdf

https://assets.metrolinx.com/image/upload/Images/Metrolinx/Eglinton%20Crosstown%20LRT/DELAYED_Notification_Tunnel_Ventilation_Test_Keelesdale.pdf

Dan

 

[Islington Express Bus]

From reddit. No details.

 

[cplchanb]

From reddit. No details.
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Looks like an audi RSQ8
Prob a dumb driver that needs remedial training or suspension

 

[Voltz]

I've said before that the surface platforms need better physical barriers particularly where the platforms meet the crosswalk. Along with decent weather and rain shelters. They seemed to only be concerned with how sleek or modern they look.

 

[Transportfan]

They way people drive on Eglinton, you do not want to use that bike lane.

I've ridden on many big roads without bike lanes before they existed and never had issues. It seems the fear factor increases more than the safety factor meant to ease them.

 

[Steve X]

I bet ML is going to sue the hell out of them for all the damage too if they don't pay up.

 

[PL1]

I bet ML is going to sue the hell out of them for all the damage too if they don't pay up.

Will likely be an insurance claim (I assume you're referring to the car v LRT shelter at what looked like Victoria Park/Eglinton)

 

[Leo_Chan]

I've said before that the surface platforms need better physical barriers particularly where the platforms meet the crosswalk. Along with decent weather and rain shelters. They seemed to only be concerned with how sleek or modern they look.

At the very least there should be concrete barriers on the opposite side of the sidewalk. The small curb and single thin post do no provide enough protection.

There should be knee or chest high barriers like on YRT.

 

[Voltz]

At the very least there should be concrete barriers on the opposite side of the sidewalk. The small curb and single thin post do no provide enough protection.
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There should be knee or chest high barriers like on YRT.
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I suggested such barriers, and full length shelters during the online consultations, they didn't think they were needed. I suspect there will be an incident of a vehicle ending up on the platform after a collision, injuring a waiting passenger. and the city will then have to come in and build decent barriers.