syn
Senior Member
That's the norm for Toronto projects unfortunately.
I wouldn't lose hope yet though - some relatively recent transit infrastructure is holding up quite well.
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That's the norm for Toronto projects unfortunately.
I wouldn't lose hope yet though - some relatively recent transit infrastructure is holding up quite well.
WislaHD
Superstar
On the plus side, it does seem like most underground stops will have multiple entrances.
This means that one corner may be developed one day while maintaining access to the station on the other corners.
This means that one corner may be developed one day while maintaining access to the station on the other corners.
crs1026
Superstar
I'm eagerly awaiting the public meeting to see how good or bad the proposals are. But either way - this consultation is one of the most expeditious turnaround of a Council direction on the transit file that I can think of. It actually feels like there may be answers to last year's questions, and a path forward.
Lest I sound too optimistic, one should remember - the west end extension is part of the Smarttrack file, not part of the ML Crosstown file. It's all on the City council, which may be good or bad. To the good, our mayor will be hungry for forward momentum on this before the next election, so he can show that he is delivering on Smarttrack. That may temper the reluctance of some of the Etobicoke councillors, who have gone on record that this project really isn't a priority for Etobicoke.
But then, we may not like the solutions proposed. Wait and see, I guess.
- Paul
Lest I sound too optimistic, one should remember - the west end extension is part of the Smarttrack file, not part of the ML Crosstown file. It's all on the City council, which may be good or bad. To the good, our mayor will be hungry for forward momentum on this before the next election, so he can show that he is delivering on Smarttrack. That may temper the reluctance of some of the Etobicoke councillors, who have gone on record that this project really isn't a priority for Etobicoke.
But then, we may not like the solutions proposed. Wait and see, I guess.
- Paul
robmausser
Senior Member
I'd still remove the stations between the major intersections.
Great to see they want to grade separate all major intersections though! Hope it happens. Then people will see how a proper LRT functions in Toronto.
MisterF
Senior Member
Is there any indication whether the LRT would have complete priority at the non-grade separated intersections? Like how they do it in Calgary for example, or the at-grade crossings on the Chicago El. If this is done the Eglinton West extension could actually be considered real rapid transit, which is a term I wouldn't use to describe any other Transit City surface line.
Cobra
Senior Member
It's the intention. I'm more optimistic for Eglinton West but I don't buy it one second east of Don Mills. The city have a poor track record of making that happen
TheTigerMaster
Superstar
Because grade separating the whole thing would be really, really expensive.
W. K. Lis
Superstar
For reference, see costs for the Line 2 extension from Kennedy to Scarborough Town Centre as an example. See link.
Hopkins123
Senior Member
East of Laird, really. Don't forget the Leslie/Eglinton blunder. A T-intersection to boot with lots of vacant land available for a side-of-roadway alignment and proper station integrated with even a potential future GO connection and yet somehow they managed to screw it up.
WislaHD
Superstar
One car crash at the Leslie Intersection will hold up the Crosstown Line.
Very misfortunate planning for rapid transit.
Very misfortunate planning for rapid transit.
BurlOak
Senior Member
I think I will make a suggestion.
Maybe after I get a reply to my 2012 suggestion that Eglinton be placed on the south side at Leslie.
W. K. Lis
Superstar
The NIMBYs (or rather YIMBY) demanded a stop at Leslie (Sunnybrook Park), where there was nothing in the EA. However, they didn't demand the location. Only a few individuals requested a south side location, but were told that a stop will be at Leslie as "requested".
smallspy
Senior Member
So would a one-car crash at Victoria Park, Warden, Birchmount, and any other number of north-south streets that intersect Eglinton. What's your point?
Dan
Toronto, Ont.
aquateam
Active Member
If anything, that should be an off-setting cost against grade-separating Eglinton east. Spending a little extra to elevate Eglinton east would have prevented the $3.5 billion one-stop 6.3 km subway.
That kind of reinforces his point.
To me, though, it's not so much the potential for the occasional crash on that stretch of Eglinton (which would happen, what, 5 days a year?) It's the fact that the thing emerges from a 10 km tunnel just to have to stop at every red light.
smallspy
Senior Member
So you want to double the price of the line, and more than double the ongoing maintenance costs, just to avoid some traffic?
Why not double-down on that theory, and just replace all of the buses with subways, too? That would get the service away from the traffic.
Dan
Toronto, Ont.