Jaye101
Active Member
^^ If we cannot get all these built it will due to lack of will as opposed to lack of capability.
Gotta say, I wouldn't mind having the Eglinton line built, but Finch and Sheppard canned so that the money can be spent on a DRL.
You would trade Finch, Sheppard and DRL for just the DRL?
Getting additional funding for the DRL is a relatively easy thing to sell.
You would trade Finch, Sheppard and DRL for just the DRL?
Getting additional funding for the DRL is a relatively easy thing to sell.
If they (Hudak) elevated ECLRT and cancelled FWLRT and SELRT, they could save money, improve a major transit line and defer the not so urgent lines at the top of Toronto. Use the money saved to pay down the deficit, and then at the subsequent election* campaign for the DRL. I would probably support this scenario.
* - To be able to do this, there would need to be an election in 2013 and the subsequent election would be Fall of 2017 (still earlier than the current start date for the FWLRT.
I hope this Tim Hudak character or the PCs gets into some kind of serious scandal. We need them out of power till Wave 2 has begun construction.
I think a DRL from Downtown to Pape would be a difficult sell. It would be seen as serving only the downtown - and rightly so since I do not think enough people from East will make the transfer to make any real difference on the Yonge-Bloor Station dwell times. Dropping Finch and Sheppard could easily push the DRL up to Eglinton.
lol"obi wynne kenobi, you are our only hope."
I expect the DRL will be the first project funded if Metrolinx receives taxation capabilitis. Second will be LakeShore electrification, and 3rd/4th/5th are various LRT projects (Mississauga, Hamilton, Kitchener/Waterloo).
If there is additional funding, DRL will be a part of it.
If there is not additional funding, Sheppard/Finch money won't be sufficient to build a DRL.
Offering up Sheppard/Finch for cancellation will not accelerate the DRL, it will only result in the cancellation of Sheppard/Finch. An Eglinton extension of the DRL will not be considered until the first phase is funded and nearing completion.
Fight for new money. Redistributing money already allocated will only help the provincial debt levels but not transit.
People wanted subways because they equated anything on the surface as streetcars. People in this city don't know any form of transit other than subways, so that is obviously what they want.
Ask yourself this, is ROW unique to LRT systems, or can streetcars (or "trams") systems also have them ; the same goes for signal priority. And do streetcars that have ROW uses simple low-level platforms? It's easy why some people will dismiss the TTC LRT as rebranded streetcars. (Except for the tunneled part of the Eglinton Crosstown, but we all know that's a subway running LRVs)People wanted subways because they equated anything on the surface as streetcars. People in this city don't know any form of transit other than subways, so that is obviously what they want.
I expect the DRL will be the first project funded if Metrolinx receives taxation capabilitis. Second will be LakeShore electrification, and 3rd/4th/5th are various LRT projects (Mississauga, Hamilton, Kitchener/Waterloo).
If there is additional funding, DRL will be a part of it.
If there is not additional funding, Sheppard/Finch money won't be sufficient to build a DRL.
Offering up Sheppard/Finch for cancellation will not accelerate the DRL, it will only result in the cancellation of Sheppard/Finch. An Eglinton extension of the DRL will not be considered until the first phase is funded and nearing completion.
Fight for new money. Redistributing money already allocated will only help the provincial debt levels but not transit.
Sheppard/Finch money definitely wouldn't be enough for a DRL, but Toronto may be able to cover the difference if they have the political will to do so.
Toronto I think is realizing that the DRL is a necessity, and that they're going to build it, one way or another. It'll just be a lot easier if the Province is on board as well.