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[Undead]

Remind me not to seek your advice when buying a condo.......... LOL

For the record my holdings are doing well

 

[drum118]

Eglinton Crosstown LRT​ Construction Notice

Overnight Tunnel Ventilation System Test at Eglinton Station​ Thursday, November 28, 2024​ Project Overview Metrolinx’s Eglinton Crosstown LRT will be a new 19-kilometre light rail transit line in midtown Toronto. With 25 stations and stops along the dedicated route, getting across town will be up to 60% faster than before. The Crosstown will link to 54 bus routes, three TTC subway stations and GO lines, providing important transit connections to get people to where they need to go faster than ever before. What You Need to Know On Thursday, November 28, 2024, between approximately 2:00 a.m. to 5:00 a.m., crews will be testing the Tunnel Ventilation System at Eglinton Station. The Tunnel Ventilation System helps release smoke in the event of a fire and/or other emergencies while providing fresh air to the tunnel and station. To facilitate this test, training smoke may be visible coming from Eglinton Station’s Salvation Army Site and/or the Tunnel Ventilation Shaft on Yonge Street, north of Eglinton Avenue, for approximately twenty (20) minutes once the test has started, refer to map. Prior to this test, Emergency Services will be notified directly. Should an actual emergency occur, emergency services will respond accordingly. No changes to the traffic or pedestrian routes are expected as a result of this work. Upon completion of this work short-term periodic lane reductions may be required on Eginton Avenue East to facilitate special activities. WHAT TO EXPECT • Training smoke may be visible coming from Eglinton Station’s Salvation Army Site and/or the Tunnel Ventilation Shaft on Yonge Street, north of Eglinton Avenue for approximately twenty (20) minutes once the test has started. HOURS OF WORK • On Thursday, November 28, 2024, between approximately 2:00 a.m. to 5:00 a.m. TRAFFIC DETAILS • No changes to the current traffic routes are expected as a result of this testing. PEDESTRIAN DETAILS • No changes to the current pedestrian routes are expected as a result of this testing. TRANSIT INFORMATION • Access to TTC will be maintained at all times. • Please visit www.ttc.ca for more information.

 

[KevinT]

It's a test they haven't done before, so I guess that's progress...

 

[Kyle Campbell]

Lots of speculation in this group - but no facts to be seen!
So far people have said:
- cracked foundation box
- sinking tunnels
- unexpected water conditions
For once, I'd just like to hear facts instead of speculation....

The deafening silence out of Metrolinx actually smells of something like the horrors being bandied about being possible. We have a government prepping for election mode, so trying to bury bad news until after the election would be par for the course.

 

[chrisw]

@Kyle Campbell Ehh, would they really be able to keep a lid on disastrous news while an election is ongoing? There'd be a leak and it'd be quite the scandal during the campaign.

 

[stevedean]

The deafening silence out of Metrolinx actually smells of something like the horrors being bandied about being possible. We have a government prepping for election mode, so trying to bury bad news until after the election would be par for the course.

And yet someone else in this group was 100% sure that the Crosstown would open before the election to boost the PC.
My point about speculation stands...

 

[Kyle Campbell]

@Kyle Campbell Ehh, would they really be able to keep a lid on disastrous news while an election is ongoing? There'd be a leak and it'd be quite the scandal during the campaign.

I actually would agree with that. Its just that how radio silence has become the norm in running a transit project these days it pretty much invites this kind of speculation.

 

[drum118]

I actually would agree with that. Its just that how radio silence has become the norm in running a transit project these days it pretty much invites this kind of speculation.

Up to Mobilinx doing Burnhamthorpe intersection for guideway construction for the Hurontario LRT, they gave a start date and end date that ended up been days to weeks behind schedule opening up. It was said the Paisley intersection was to start September 15 and went dead until signs went up saying it was to be November 14 with no end date. Most things in the corridor have gone silent to the point the ward councilors cannot get answers on various thing, let alone council.

Even the talk on the street these days is silent and mostly due to nothing taking place or not talking at all.

There is no one you can ask question for the Crosstown as they are underground these days out of sight.

 

[Metroscapes]

A forum poster is a bit different than a city councillor. Colle should be and hopefully will be asked to substantiate that. Of course, if he knows only by virtue of information the TTC passed on, this could be a new friction point between Metrolinx and their contractor.

I actually would agree with that. Its just that how radio silence has become the norm in running a transit project these days it pretty much invites this kind of speculation.

This is exactly it. If you don't offer anything, it's not hard to chum the water. In my case, I simply offered up a logical explanation from a comment by a city councillor, and @urbancog offered some supporting information to it being linked to tunnel contracts.

This is not so much about gossip and more like 'this seems logical, can the government actually confirm this? Anyone?!' If it's legitimate, someone just needs to rip the bandaid off.

 

[duffo]

From the MX Board Report:

 

[max]

From the MX Board Report:
View attachment 614044

I wonder if the September 28th software release is the one that lead to this:

I'm sure that many people have noticed that there have been far fewer trains operating over the past two weeks.

Early into this current set of training classes, the signal system failed pretty badly. And since then, it has not been able to operate with any semblance of reliability.

The second set of classes is wrapping up now, but with far less throttle time than they need. They will need to come back to complete those portions of their training once the third set of classes wraps up in late December.

This has been such a concern inside the TTC that they don't think that they can start the service demonstration - the two board periods of operation without paying passengers - in January.

Dan

 

[duffo]

I wonder if the September 28th software release is the one that lead to this:

MX is now convinced they have a plan in place to advance testing and operations. Perhaps TTC, as the actual operator, does not share that opinion...

 

[evandyk]

We were on Eglinton on the weekend and passed by some of the station buildings, so I was talking with my kid about how it looked ready and the trains were running, but it was not opening and they wouldn't tell us when it would open. He asked if it is like the Odd Burger at Broadview and Danforth which has had an "Opening Soon" sign on the building since at least September 2023.

 

[bono47]

I'm sure that many people have noticed that there have been far fewer trains operating over the past two weeks.

Early into this current set of training classes, the signal system failed pretty badly. And since then, it has not been able to operate with any semblance of reliability.

The second set of classes is wrapping up now, but with far less throttle time than they need. They will need to come back to complete those portions of their training once the third set of classes wraps up in late December.

This has been such a concern inside the TTC that they don't think that they can start the service demonstration - the two board periods of operation without paying passengers - in January.

Dan

Dan- in your view is this the biggest remaining bottleneck to overcome before an opening date is provided? Are multiple classes of drivers not able to train simultaneously? Thx



FWIW- I have followed up with Mike Colles office several times via voicemail and email asking him to substantiate his claim that Eglington is sinking, I have yet to receive a response.

 

[max]

MX is now convinced they have a plan in place to advance testing and operations. Perhaps TTC, as the actual operator, does not share that opinion...

What Metrolinx believes and what they share with the public are not necessarily the same, let's not forget, this board has a penchant for dealing with most business in camera.

Given this is an update for the November 28, 2024 meeting (see https://assets.metrolinx.com/image/..._15.5_-_Capital_Projects_Rapid_Transit_En.pdf) my comment was meant to highlight the report's cherry-picking of good news. I don't see how a release on Sep 28th would enable operator training to advance if that release effectively halted training unless there was a subsequent software release before the mid-October timeframe which caused the signal issue. I believe I've seen references to months long waits between releases so I'm inclined to believe the September release is the culprit.

The alternative is that @smallspy has bad information, which seems more ridiculous to me than the idea that Metrolinx would avoid publicly releasing bad news.