kEiThZ
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You can go back in my post history a decade. I said this about Liberal ridings in the 416. Until there are more actual swingy ridings inside the 416, the city won't be taken seriously.
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Toronto Centre & York Centre Byelections, 2020
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You can go back in my post history a decade. I said this about Liberal ridings in the 416. Until there are more actual swingy ridings inside the 416, the city won't be taken seriously.
WislaHD
Superstar
Now that would be exciting and would get my vote if I was in the riding.
afransen
Senior Member
The problem is that there is even the concept of certain ridings that are swing ridings and worth paying attention to and all the others can be taken for granted. Not going to be fixed without some sort of electoral reform as this problem is inherent in FPTP and similar systems.
christiesplits
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The NDP has selected Brian Chang, their 2019 candidate, to run in Toronto Centre.
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Given how quickly the Liberals appointed a “star” candidate and called a byelection only weeks after Morneau’s “resignation,” it just seems so crass and opportunistic.
There was no time given to the Greens to conclude their leadership campaign, with two strong leadership hopefuls with ties to Toronto Centre, nor was there much time for the NDP and Conservatives to hold proper, democratic nominations, especially with a pandemic.
Now the Liberals have pit a handpicked media darling against the new Green Party leader.
There was no time given to the Greens to conclude their leadership campaign, with two strong leadership hopefuls with ties to Toronto Centre, nor was there much time for the NDP and Conservatives to hold proper, democratic nominations, especially with a pandemic.
Now the Liberals have pit a handpicked media darling against the new Green Party leader.
afransen
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These are both Liberal/NDP contests, right? Greens and Conservatives as spoilers.
Northern Light
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afransen
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I must have been thinking of other ridings as both have been solidly Liberal for a long time. There was a period around 2010 when the NDP was competitive in Toronto Centre. Of course, they have had a high profile (shadow) cabinet member in the seat since the 90s. York Centre is more a Lib/Conservative race.
adma
Superstar
As mentioned, not York Centre; but Toronto Centre ordinarily/technically would be insofar as it's rock bottom for CPC in Toronto (perception of the Cons as gay/poor/urban-unfriendly doesn't help; neither does the fact that Rosedale was distributed away in 2015), and the NDP hold it provincially. But Annamie-Paul-as-Green-leader throws an added twist to things.
For it to *truly* be competitive for the NDP has historically depended upon broader weak-Lib-strong-NDP spot circumstances (like 2011 federally, and 2018 provincially--and it's *possible* that the latter could be more enduring than a one-off).
christiesplits
Senior Member
I would be stunned if the Liberals lost Toronto Centre. They lost the seat provincially due to the once in a generation Wynne government collapse. In contrast, Trudeau is still very popular.
I suspect the Liberals are the favorites in York Centre. It is an incredibly diverse riding, with large blocs of Jewish, Filipino, Russian and Black voters.
I suspect the Liberals are the favorites in York Centre. It is an incredibly diverse riding, with large blocs of Jewish, Filipino, Russian and Black voters.
christiesplits
Senior Member
And who better to represent the diverse riding of York Centre than Mad Max
afransen
Senior Member
The definition of a carpet bagger.
jayme2016
Active Member
I think the issue they will have is many may wantt to get behind the new leader of the Greens.
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christiesplits
Senior Member
I wouldn't be surprised to see Paul get more votes than the NDP, but it won't be enough to topple the Liberals.
Northern Light
Superstar
Paul is calling for the PM to suspect the by-elections due to Covid and defer the vote to a later date.
To my surprise, honestly, this power does in fact exist in the Elections Act, and has since 1952; though apparently no one can recall it ever having been used.
www.thestar.com
To my surprise, honestly, this power does in fact exist in the Elections Act, and has since 1952; though apparently no one can recall it ever having been used.
Justin Trudeau says democracy must continue during pandemic, as Green Leader calls for Toronto byelections to be suspended amid rising COVID-19 cases
“I just don’t see how we have the conditions for a free and fair election and — more than anything else — a safe election that isn’t going to put people at risk,” says Green Leader Annamie Paul.
www.thestar.com