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Natives push for inclusion in proposed museum
Planning of facility ignores 11,000 years of Toronto's past, leaders argue

KATE HARRIES

Special to The Globe and Mail

Descendants of the people who first lived in what is now the Toronto area say they're being left out of the planning for a proposed museum that would set out the region's history.

"I'm so disappointed," said Kawartha Nishnawbe Chief Kris Nahrgang, who's one of many aboriginal leaders who have been pushing for a facility to house artifacts dug up from archeological sites across the city. "Our culture's beautiful. I'm just so sad that they don't acknowledge it."

Recent developments in the Toronto Museum Project, as it's known, include identification of a possible site -- a 3.6-acre city-owned parcel at the foot of Bathurst Street next to the old Canada Malting Co. silo. Former Toronto mayor David Crombie and former Parkdale MP Sarmite Bulte have accepted positions on the launch board as honorary chair and chair, respectively.

Mr. Nahrgang said he's upset that the project has progressed to this point without any attempt to engage descendants of the people who inhabited this area for 11,000 years.

Rita Davies, executive director of the city's culture division, insists that native concerns are integral to the project. "We're at the very early stages of this project," she said. "There is every intention that there will be native representation."

But Luc Laine, the Huron Wendat Nation's cultural liaison representative for Ontario, said it's a common aboriginal experience for consultation to start after key decisions have been made. "We say in French, it's a fait accompli -- so that's exactly what we're trying to change."

Archeological consultant Ron Williamson is a strong supporter of a museum that would tell the city's story. But he worries that the project's focus is the colonial period and the modern multicultural era -- the most recent 250 years, not the previous 11,000 years.

"The fact that we could have a decade of conversation about a museum without first nations playing a significant role in that conversation -- that is astounding," he said, suggesting that an aboriginal representative should have been among the first selections to the board.

"We just wanted to make sure we had the beginning of a leadership team," Ms. Davies responds. A proposal will probably go to Toronto council this fall at which time the decision will be made about the site and a launch board established.

Ms. Davies said the culture division was asked to come up with ideas for redevelopment of the Bathurst Street site, which is distinguished by the "iconic feature of the silos -- so we have that as a really strong symbol of the industrial past."

Fundraising will be a significant element of the board's responsibilities. A 2004 feasibility study for Humanitas, as the museum project was dubbed at that time, suggested $130-million but that may be scaled down to the $100-million range, she said.

Ms. Davies said that the feasibility study did involve consultation with numerous organizations and individuals, including native groups. The report lists 380 participants, among them half a dozen representatives from organizations such as the Native Canadian Centre of Toronto and the Toronto Métis Council.

But that was not meaningful consultation, Mr. Nahrgang said, because while those urban organizations perform important functions as friendship centres, they don't represent local communities.

"It's just not right, you're not talking to the right people, and that's why consultation is not proper when it's done in that manner," he said. "You need to be speaking with the chiefs and councils, with the legitimate people who speak for this area."

Mr. Nahrgang has spearheaded the organization of a founding first nations circle to respond to government, developers and any other groups on issues involving cultural artifacts and sacred sites.

Currently engaged in a variety of negotiations regarding archeological sites, ossuaries and burial grounds in the GTA, the circle is made up of six people, with two representatives from each of the principal aboriginal groups in this area -- the Huron, the Iroquois and the Ojibwa.

The principal native groups that left their historic imprint on this area are the Huron Wendat, the Kawartha Nishnawbe, the Mississaugas of the New Credit, and the Six Nations.

Mr. Laine said the museum would be a wonderful opportunity to teach people -- especially newcomers to Canada -- about aboriginal customs and culture. Toronto is a Huron word, meaning "meeting place," he noted. The Huron settled the north shore of Lake Ontario up to Georgian Bay but were driven out, to Quebec, where they now live.

He said Huron Wendat Grand Chief Max Gros-Louis has been trying to arrange a meeting with Mayor David Miller for several months to discuss cultural issues and the need to preserve and showcase Toronto's native history.

Don Wanagas, a spokesman for the mayor, said his office is trying to schedule a meeting with Mr. Gros-Louis in May. "As for the Toronto museum, the mayor is adamant that first nations representatives must be involved in any such project," he said. "However, the museum is only a proposal at this point in time."

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I appreciate the Natives' effort to get their culture included in the Toronto Museum project, but perhaps a museum on the City of Toronto isn't the best place to do it. If the Natives want more presence among Toronto's museums, the ROM, which already has exhibits on the First Nations, is probably the best place for it.

Otherwise, the Natives should consider starting up a new museum in Toronto to showcase their culture. Toronto certainly has room for one more museum.
 
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The ROM was taken to task for their Into The Heart of Africa exhibition in 1990 which gave them some bad publicity, and the museum was careful to involve aboriginals in setting up the Canadian Indian galleries that recently opened. Perhaps they've set an example others could follow?
 
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It took more than a decade to sort out the disputes over the exhibits in the First Peoples' Hall at the Museum of Civilization, during which the room sat empty. It opened just a couple years ago, though most everybody is satisfied with the result.
 
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I'd love to know more about the aboriginal people of this area!
 
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It would, actually, be completely ridiculous to separate native history from that of Toronto. Moving beyond the overwrought origin of our city's name, the whole raison d'etre of Toronto (nee Fort Rouille, and later, York) was its siting on major native canadian trade routes, and the relatively large aggregation of fairly well-off (and thus commercially exploitable) native settlements in the area. Artefacts, and even campsites or entire villages, are actually quite commonly disturbed by excavations (whether archaeological or not) throughout the city, whicyh is testament to the long history of this area. Indeed, the information gleamed from these sites may yet tell us much of why Toronto grew as it did, and inform as to the growth, development, and economic and cultural expansion of other population centres as well.
It is Toronto's tragedy that so many of the sites (both pre-contact and historic) that have been excavated are never brought to the public's attention.
 
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If ever a waterfront site cried out for an iconic and unique cultural building this is it.

Forget trying to convince office workers they just gotta, they just gotta, they just gotta work in something blobby or spiky or swoopy-curvy at the foot of Jarvis ...

Instead, steal dem two big slutty bad girl Yonkers towers that Will Alsop designed: set them up - leaning provocatively against our Bathurst silos, their frayed skirts lifted - as an invitation to tourists of the world to come and explore the Toronto immigrant experience ...
 
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"Come to Toronto! Explore our immigrants!"

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I thought Metronome was dead when I moved to Alberta in '04.....
 
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ganjavih, did Taiwanese supermodel Lin Chiling immigrate to Toronto?
 
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Personally, if our natives want to be included, they might have thought of that a long time and made something interesting and durable. Peru and Mexico - now, those places had natives! Temples, pyramids, bloodthirsty rituals, all preserved in stone and bone. You couldn't ignore those remains if you tried. What do we get? A few skins stretched over some twigs, a smallish ditch outlining the remains of a great house, a few arrowheads. Has anything ever been less interesting than an arrowhead?

My response to the natives is: too late! You should have thought of that a long time ago and given us something to be proud of.

[This is meant tongue in cheek, by the way, though I do think the complaints - one week after the announcement of the project - are grossly premature].
 
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It would be inapproprate, and inaccurate, to exclude the very first peoples who settled and utilized this area before the European settlers arrived. Their history is entwined with this area, from early trade to joseph grant and beyond. From what I understand it was an important trade route, and you can't talk about trade and key trade cities, which was key to the develpment of Canada , without some discussion on the first peoples.
 
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Of course not, but why does it so often start with a declaration that they have been slighted yet again, instead of a simple request to be included in the planning process.

So far this museum is not much more than a notion and general concept. Nobody has promised anybody any specific amount of square feet.

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I think our natives have every right to be restless when they're not in-on-the-ground-floor of planning for a museum such as this. A similar exclusion some 15 years ago ( of an African perspective ) at the planning of the ROM exhibition about European colonialism in Africa was a wake up call that the ROM took to heart in the planning of their recently opened Canadian Indian gallery - but apparently nobody at this Toronto museum planning group heard, or if they did cared to listen to.
 

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