rdaner
Senior Member
Always appreciate your insight. However that stance assumes the properties are not sold.
Toronto 250 Dundas West | 189.75m | 58s | Dream | Arcadis
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Northern Light
Superstar
I imagine a temporal link to the new Mt. Sinai research tower.
Sinai Health Research Tower (Sinai, ?s, ?)
I have confirmed that Sinai is in the planning stages for a new Research Tower to be built on the west side of Murray Street. The building will be the new home of the Lunenfeld-Tanenbaum Research Institute I have not yet confirmed which of its 2 landholdings is in play, but I am hopeful that...
Napalm Frog
Active Member
My partner works at Sinai and has contacts at one of the clinics, who was recently informed the clinic will be moving to 700 University. Unknown if this is related to future development at this location or not.
Northern Light
Superstar
No new docs here...........but I expect some.........sooner than later.....
Updated AIC link to the 'Under Review' Site Plan from yesteryear:
Application Details
www.toronto.ca
UT's most successful gambler, who always ante's up when he's got a Royal Flush was, of course, on point.
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New Docs are in........took them a bit longer than I thought.........
Wish it had taken them longer still...........sigh.
The office component is indeed gone, and the height is bumped to 57s. ...........lets get the details:
@Paclo ; @3Dementia
Renders:
From the Cover Letter:
Oh no! You read that right UT............another park........yes this is literally one block from absurdly tiny little 'park' next to Artistry...........sigh.
Key Stats. Compared:
Revised Site Plan:
Revised Ground Floor Plan:
Change Summary from the Planning Letter:
@HousingNowTO will wish to monitor the commitment to 'more' affordable housing here.
Elevator Ratio: 5 elevators to 719 residential units. Ugh. 1 elevator per 143 units
Up to date link:
Application Details
www.toronto.ca
Following up on my Parks Comment, lets have a look at this area on google maps:
The Purple is this site, with the green being the 'park' at Artistry and the two yellow are next to existing parks.
The area is short of usable parkland, but it is not short of useless parks.
There is room to expand Orde Street Park to the north and make it a much better, more functional space; and hey, Green P is one of the land owners/managers.
Meanwhile.........what if we shifted a rebuilt University Settlement Recreation Centre to the east on to this brilliant use of space:
Then some of the existing building footprint could be added to the park, but so could the Grange Road ROW.....
But no.......lets add another 750m2 random blob of green on which you can fit no sports amenities, no cultural amenities, no significant nature........yes, we can create another pretty place to sit....but there's one one block west......
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Brutal. I get cutting down or eliminating the office in the current market, but this silly little two storey podium and rinkey dink "park" completely cut the Dundas streetwall and don't contribute anything of actual use to the City.
Just to pull this out for highlight purposes: 5 elevators for 719 suites, 1 elevator per 143.8 suites?!?!
Adding 1 elevator, removing 1 suite per floor would provide 6 elevators for 662, or 1 for every 110 suites. Still too high a ratio, but not brutal like currently.
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Adding 1 elevator, removing 1 suite per floor would provide 6 elevators for 662, or 1 for every 110 suites. Still too high a ratio, but not brutal like currently.
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Full height rendering:
Additional massing perspectives
Additional massing perspectives
Amare
Senior Member
Completely agree with @Northern Light on his thoughts here, this park space is completely useless and it should be off site. I'd rather them expand the footprint of this building to fit in another elevator so it's less of a cattle herd situation.
Also I had a good laugh out of this here:
I'll believe it when I see it.
Also I had a good laugh out of this here:
I'll believe it when I see it.
UtakataNoAnnex
Senior Member
...is there a reason why they don't keep the original retail massing at podium level? Seems quite heavily used currently....shame to ditch something that's proving to be vibrant.
AlexBozikovic
Active Member
Agreed @UtakataNoAnnex @ProjectEnd @Northern Light. The idea of a park on this corner is perverse. It’s directly across the street from 52 Division and its block-long public plaza, which police used for parking for decades. Another unprogrammed open space is the last thing this block needs.
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Can we just put up the Sogo Screen and run ACAB ads 24/7?
innsertnamehere
Superstar
That park is insane. ESPECIALLY Since Toronto Parks is getting another little mini-useless park literally a block to the west
TRONto
Active Member
While far from perfect. I think it's an improvement over the previous proposal. It's too bad the artistry park and this one aren't next to each other. St Patrick has a bit of green with mature trees and this park will provide a green entrance to the street. I think it could work in the end. This park has the possibility to provide amenities that are not included with the other 2 local mini-parks. Due to the location I think it will be well used for a mini-park (most of the others I notice are not used at all). The big loss I see is all that retail disappearing. I think we may be going from around 10 retail spaces to 3?