brianyyz
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Fenced off. Store is being emptied and the pumps being removed
Toronto 241 Church | 170.7m | 53s | Graywood | Turner Fleischer
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Undead
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Ugh. Leave my heritage Esso alone.
innsertnamehere
Superstar
that was quick following their approval. Wonder if we'll see a sales launch here soon.
ushahid
Senior Member
^i dont know why the ugliest projects are the quickest. LOL!
Northern Light
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doublestandard
New Member
the ugliest projects are the quickest cuz you have a councillor that doesn't care about the environment that her constituents live in , .. it's called apathy, laziness , absolutely no concept of the built environment
3Dementia
Senior Member
Would you have traded your heritage Esso for the Santiago Calatrava tower we almost got here?
Northern Light
Superstar
Would you have traded your heritage Esso for the Santiago Calatrava tower we almost got here?
Wasn't the Calatrava site solely the Ryerson property to the north?
3Dementia
Senior Member
Ryerson didn't own the gas station but Calatrava's design (including a 33 storey spiralling tower that defied the 30m height limit) spilled onto this lot.
Calatrava even offered to help fundraising efforts with large donors... to buy the lot and help raise the construction budget lol.
BTW, he also agreed to Ryerson’s pre-set architect's fees of 10% of the project budget… a fraction of what he’d earn in Europe and elsewhere.
Calatrava even offered to help fundraising efforts with large donors... to buy the lot and help raise the construction budget lol.
BTW, he also agreed to Ryerson’s pre-set architect's fees of 10% of the project budget… a fraction of what he’d earn in Europe and elsewhere.
Northern Light
Superstar
Do you just get the desire to pass the hat at UT and put flyers under the door of all the residents of the Merchandise Building w/west facing units and pictures of the Calatrava design; and then this proposal....
With 'You could have had this' above the former; 'But instead you got that' over the latter?
Just checking, cause if you do, I might put something in the hat. LOL
3Dementia
Senior Member
I've already started a Go Fund Me site but I fear it's too late.
Ryerson was going ride the Calatrava celebrity train to launch the school into the big leagues.
And Santiago was literally willing to "pass the hat" himself at big donor fundraising parties (probably pour the drinks too). He saw Toronto as the next great "new" city. It's heart-breaking.
Of course city planning would have nixed the 33s spiral anyway thanks to the 30 height* limit (5 years before MAD's Absolute twist design appeared).
So now we have a 53s TF*. Yay.
Northern Light
Superstar
To change anything here; certainly. I was merely thinking of the value of rubbing salt in some self-inflicted wounds, LOL Through, truthfully, many of the original residents and investors have probably moved on.....
It is a shame, no question.
Undead
Senior Member
Over my undead body.Would you have traded your heritage Esso for the Santiago Calatrava tower we almost got here?
3Dementia
Senior Member
P.S. I don't have a pic of Calatrava's "spiral" tower for Toronto but I'm betting the design (1999/2000) was based on the sculpture Twisting Torso... as was Malmo's renowned "Turning Torso"... the Swedes were talking to him pretty much exactly the same time :-(
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doublestandard
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aaaah , yes the Calatrava tower , .. so sad , ... and to think that a 4 story was built , .. the tower was actually going to be placed at the northern quarter or third of that huge parking lot that was there , .. I remember being at the meeting when theSOCIAL CONDOS at the south east corner were proposed the loft people were losing it .