C-mac
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On top of that, it should really add to the way Church street is developing a nice little canyon. I love all the new buildings going up on Church.
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On top of that, it should really add to the way Church street is developing a nice little canyon. I love all the new buildings going up on Church.
Collingwoodbuildinglover
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Anything to draw our eyes away from social would be nice
C-mac
Senior Member
I was thinking the exact same thing...lol.
dustinnantais
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Drill baby, drill...
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dustinnantais
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Have to chime in here as I've lived in Merchandise for 12 years, and currently occupy the ground floor corner unit directly across from this construction site (old Esso station). I've lived in 2 units in this building. I'm also the President of the Board of Directors for TSCC 1565 (Phase 5), so have some inside information about the history and inner-workings of this building.2 facts about the loft building [The merchandise building] , yes there are some brilliant layouts , BUT the sound insulation between units, is abysmal , to say the least.
Also back when the engineering building was being built /2001, right to the west of this lost building Ryerson had a chance to build a 33 storey tower designed by Santiago Calatrava.The loft owners destroyed that possibility , and the city caved in to the loft owners .
Rye ends affair with world-class architect
By Eyeopener Staff Santiago Calatrava’s contract termination leaves bold building plan in ruins; forces university back to square one.theeyeopener.com
The layouts are generally pretty horrible imo. The interior design when they converted this building was done by Ryerson students to save money - and most units feel like a school project gone wrong. Most fixtures have fallen apart, bathtubs leak and have to be replaced, and overall construction quality (by Eastern Construction) was shocking. We gutted our 3 bedroom to rethink the whole layout, and found utterly stunning construction methods - the metal studs holding the inner walls together weren't bound together so they just flopped around once the drywall was removed. Tim Horton's cups and other garbage was thrown into wall cavities by workers. Insulation between ceiling slabs in hot areas like the boiler rooms was omitted, allowing heat to pass through units. Eastern really rushed the job, clearly.
That said, I've never had an issue with insulation between units. I have a music production studio in one of my bedrooms and never once had a noise complaint. I've lived in many condos in Toronto, most of which had paper thin walls - this building however, that is not the case. Some walls are thick 100-year old concrete that is hard to even drill into. I'd say it's probably some of the best material for sound insulation between rooms I've ever seen/heard.
doublestandard
New Member
wow , thank you for sharing all those details , serious worker /developer apathy.••••• I was referring to the smaller rectangular , long units regarding sound travel , . the larger symmetric 2 bedroom units facing west are well proportioned , and specifically 615 , in 155 Dalhousie .you are quite lucky to live in your unit , its a corner and you get to be at ground zero of urban heaven and hell yet you are removed because of your western set back because of the ''basement'' units .The cancellation of the 33 storey Calatrava tower was a travesty just because of the possible loss of loft views even though it was to be placed at Gould and church .I used to go to all the community meetings and when the Social was proposed , the loft nimbys lost their mindHave to chime in here as I've lived in Merchandise for 12 years, and currently occupy the ground floor corner unit directly across from this construction site (old Esso station). I've lived in 2 units in this building. I'm also the President of the Board of Directors for TSCC 1565 (Phase 5), so have some inside information about the history and inner-workings of this building.
The layouts are generally pretty horrible imo. The interior design when they converted this building was done by Ryerson students to save money - and most units feel like a school project gone wrong. Most fixtures have fallen apart, bathtubs leak and have to be replaced, and overall construction quality (by Eastern Construction) was shocking. We gutted our 3 bedroom to rethink the whole layout, and found utterly stunning construction methods - the metal studs holding the inner walls together weren't bound together so they just flopped around once the drywall was removed. Tim Horton's cups and other garbage was thrown into wall cavities by workers. Insulation between ceiling slabs in hot areas like the boiler rooms was omitted, allowing heat to pass through units. Eastern really rushed the job, clearly.
That said, I've never had an issue with insulation between units. I have a music production studio in one of my bedrooms and never once had a noise complaint. I've lived in many condos in Toronto, most of which had paper thin walls - this building however, that is not the case. Some walls are thick 100-year old concrete that is hard to even drill into. I'd say it's probably some of the best material for sound insulation between rooms I've ever seen/heard.
djb
New Member
Speaking as someone who owns one of those longer 1 beds. Can confirm noise transfer isn't fabulous. It is less music, talking, etc. more a thump here or there if someone is heavy on their feet or slams a door. Not the end of the world but def a thing. If I had to do it over again I'd have definitely landed on a wider 2 bed.
dustinnantais
New Member
Yes, agreed - I had a longer 1 bed for about 6 years and it is definitely more the thuds and reverberating bangs n things - it's as if the skeleton of the building transmits thuds throughout the whole phase. Mid-range and high frequency noise is fairly well insulated compared to newer condos though, and that's the stuff that can get super annoying.
TSCMS
New Member
Only 25% of the units need to meet the affordability criteria based on CMHC's rental rates. It's a new build, meaning they get a 50 year amortization, not 40 and at prime. It's a long game now, the losses will be made up quickly.