The Tenor (10 Dundas St E, Ent Prop Trust, 10s, Baldwin & Franklin)

[scarberiankhatru]

Ha ha, sorry, I was clearly being facetious. Sarcasm doesn't show too well on these forums.

Yes, I know you were being sarcastic.

I just think it's funny that there's a nearly identical complex up in North York...and I jumped off your sarcastic post to say that the one in North York is better. There's an Extreme Fitness across the street, too! No Jack Astor's, though

 

[Art Vandelay]

The problem with this reasoning is that you're assuming there must be a choice between good architecture & design and gawdy commercialism. The truth is, both are possible. TLS isn't just a scaffolding for advertising; it's a building with different uses. The interior isn't that well design and it's really just an unimpressive mall.

To the critics of TLS is what we had before the expropriation better or worse than what we have today? Does the construction of TLS subtract from the area or simply not add as much to the area as it should?

 

[grey]

Does the construction of TLS subtract from the area or simply not add as much to the area as it should?

Both:

Gould Street is worse off, Victoria Street is worse off, Yonge Street is worse off, Dundas finally has some action, but it's nowhere close to what it could/should have been.

 

[adma]

Exactly, not enough people are "so engaged" in the urban aesthetics to care about how TLS looks. - For the most part "average" people will probably find that it's an interesting building with pretty lights.

Maybe take a picture of it or something....

But note my other strategic point: "How many people groused over MSG in NYC? After all, it replaced Penn Station...". By your standard, the fact that for the most part "average" people couldn't care less was a fair enough excuse for destroying Penn Station for the "interesting building with popular events" known as MSG...

 

[VoiceofReality]

Had lunch at milestones today...restaurant looks great and they are replacing the railing on Yonge street with glass panels! They have started at the north end of the patio and are working their way south...

 

[Tuscani01]

Both:

Gould Street is worse off, Victoria Street is worse off, Yonge Street is worse off, Dundas finally has some action, but it's nowhere close to what it could/should have been.

I'd say Victoria street is better off now. You have shelter from the rain when walking from Dundas station to the Library building at ryerson. Before it was a walk alongside a parking garage, with no shelter at all.

 

[casaguy]

is what we had before the expropriation better or worse than what we have today?

Definitely worse.

At least when we had that hoarding up for all those years we could all use our imagination as to how great that corner could one day be. Now the reality of talentless people with power is all too apparent.

 

[Hydrogen]

It's not, Finished - all buildings evolve over time.

Considering how slow this building went up, it does fall within evolutionary time frames.


Is there a guarantee that it will start to look better as it gets older?

 

[khris]

Even if the ads are changed, the building itself is still visible, so I don't think it will ever really change drastically.

 

[MetroMan]

Had lunch at milestones today...restaurant looks great and they are replacing the railing on Yonge street with glass panels! They have started at the north end of the patio and are working their way south...

Thanks for that info. I'm now hopeful that Jack Astors will do the same. The whole view while lounging on the patio is obstructed by the perforated aluminum panels that are there now.

 

[whatever]

I tried to have dinner at Milestones tonite. We were told that it was a half hour wait for the patio, but didn't get seated until nearly an hour and a half after that. Then our waiter gave us our menus and took our drink orders. After waiting another half hour for him to get back we gave up and hit the food court instead.

The place looks really nice anyways, and the odd dish that was being brought out looked good. Good news about the railing too, the one they have right now takes up almost a third of the patio space, with the way that it bends inwards. Can't say I'd recommend the place tho, at least not until they figure out what they're doing. We got passed through no less than four hostesses before meeting our waiter, and the poor manager had a deer-in-the-headlights thing going on

 

[grey]

I tried to have dinner at Milestones tonite. We were told that it was a half hour wait for the patio, but didn't get seated until nearly an hour and a half after that. Then our waiter gave us our menus and took our drink orders. After waiting another half hour for him to get back we gave up and hit the food court instead.

The place looks really nice anyways, and the odd dish that was being brought out looked good. Good news about the railing too, the one they have right now takes up almost a third of the patio space, with the way that it bends inwards. Can't say I'd recommend the place tho, at least not until they figure out what they're doing. We got passed through no less than four hostesses before meeting our waiter, and the poor manager had a deer-in-the-headlights thing going on

If it's the same menu as every Milestones from here to Burlington, the food is nothing to write home about and it's loaded with sodium, so consider yourself warned. They do have a few fun drinks, though.

As a side note, watching people talk about Jack Astors and Milestones as though they've never seen these chains before is strange. They're places you just kind of assume everyone has either gone to (like Harveys) or avoids (like Arby's).

 

[EnviroTO]

I just had Milestone's on Sunday on the Queensway and found it wasn't as salty as it had been in the past.

Good news about the railing too, the one they have right now takes up almost a third of the patio space, with the way that it bends inwards.

Why is that good news?

 

[samsonyuen]

Had dinner on Tuesday night at Milestone's. I forgoed the patio when told it'd be thirty minutes for a patio, no wait inside. The server was brand new, but sweet. Food was good, but really, not very good value for the money. It's hard for me to say that Jack Astor's is a (comparably) good value for its money!

 

[whatever]

Why is that good news?

Because the current railing sucks both aesthetically and functionally, while the new one sounds better? Generally when something goes from sucking to sucking less this is considered good, and thus a report of such a happening can be construed as good news.