micheal_can
Senior Member
There was a time when York U did not have a subway stop.
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Sheppard Line 4 Subway Extension (Proposed)
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T3G
Senior Member
Can you rephrase this question?
kEiThZ
Superstar
Well reasoned. 2B works for those coming from the East and heading into the core or midtown. But for that, there's already Line 2. Option 2B screws over a lot of north Scarborough travel.
micheal_can
Senior Member
T3G
Senior Member
Huh?
What kind of rhetorical trick is this!? The reason we built the subways is because the streetcars were getting too crowded to handle the demand placed on them. What point are you trying to make here????
north-of-anything
Active Member
As someone who has never really been on Sheppard east of Fairview Mall, I have no real insight as to whether 2A or 2B is better, but I agree that it definitely is superior to 1 and 3 for the development potential west of Yonge. Glad to see the West extension is being considered, and hopefully the preferred option. I think Sheppard West Station could be a good sort of central hub for the Downsview redevelopment.
As much as I would have liked to see a Senlac station being considered, I get why it's not a preferred one - the risk it could end up being Bessarion 2.0 where it doesn't pay for itself for decades.
As much as I would have liked to see a Senlac station being considered, I get why it's not a preferred one - the risk it could end up being Bessarion 2.0 where it doesn't pay for itself for decades.
micheal_can
Senior Member
The point is to show that there is a purpose to an extension.
So, if we look to the east, as traffic gets worse and buses get stuck in it, there comes a point that an extension will make sense. We could stave off that extension with a BRT or an LRT. York U had a BRT to it from the Downsview station.
T3G
Senior Member
I don't see how pointing at historical subway construction remotely is an argument for future subway extension. The argument you are currently presenting to extend the line boils down to "we built a subway in the past" (in, it might be added, a completely different urban environment served by completely different forms of transit), and it doesn't hold up to even the slightest level of scrutiny. Surely, if it's as self evident as you are asserting, there should be some facts and figures you can provide that stand alone independent of the past.
kEiThZ
Superstar
dowlingm
Senior Member
Isn't the development moving forward with or without Line 4 though? By the time Line 4 is approved to come west, is anyone actually changing any plans?
micheal_can
Senior Member
Why did the SRT not just get torn down and left as buses?
I am willing to bet that when a subway was first built, there was never an expectation it would extend as far as it has.
My only thought of when the decide what plan to go with, that is allows for an even further extension as it becomes needed. if it never becomes a need then it never gets built.
kEiThZ
Superstar
Yeah. I can't believe options 1 and 3 are even real. It makes no sense to extend the subway without connecting Yonge and Spadina.
I dunno. With upzoning, these stations could be more useful.
Steve X
Senior Member
They could elevate the entire eastern line starting around VP. The could build the tracks directly above the centre of the roadway or to one side. It be Scarborough signature rapid transit. A good reminder of it.
dougtoronto
New Member
What are the chances it could be extended west to Downsview Park and not just Sheppard West? Would this even be preferable? Thinking of easing connections between Barrie and Stouffville GO.
Railrunner
Active Member
Why not just transfer from line 4 to line 1 north a stop? Single seat trips are not that important.