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Sharon Yetman's Subway Safety Plan (Better barrier for subways 'an obsession')
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Well, I got one of my two meetings. My meeting with TTC, got rebooked. My spot, got taken by the Mayor.
I guess that has to do with the fact that TTC lost 4 billion in funding.
My other meeting with the Customer Service Panel, was a huge success. I now have a ticket direct to Montreal STM Transit, and the TTC.
My meeting with TTC is booked for later this month.
What is a ticket direct? Do you mean they gave you a one-way ticket to Montreal? How kind.
Darn that mayor, taking precedence.
Darn that mayor, taking precedence.
Mapleson
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Actually, the TTC has lost no funding as they have no provencial operational funding. Metrolinx, who were paying the capital costs of Transit City among other initiatives, lost $4B funding.
So the TTC will give you a meeting then tell you it's been superceded and will take another month for a slot to be open? If you had a "direct ticket" beyond a subway token, wouldn't your meeting be able to supercede any less important meeting? When is your meeting "later this month"? Will you have any new innovations for the TTC by then?
So the TTC will give you a meeting then tell you it's been superceded and will take another month for a slot to be open? If you had a "direct ticket" beyond a subway token, wouldn't your meeting be able to supercede any less important meeting? When is your meeting "later this month"? Will you have any new innovations for the TTC by then?
subway safety
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My meeting is the last week of April, and yes I do have new innovations. In some respects I may have even shared too much in this forum. And while some think this whole this is a big fantasy and a big joke.
what do you think people thought about Alexandra Graham Bell. Everyone who was not directly on the inside for knowing or actually understanding that he planned to take one black box and talk to another black box 1 mile down the road, without screaming.
The whole world thought he had 5 heads growing from his neck. Now look at us. Where would we be without the telephone.
Anyway, for those who want to think I'm crazy, get a life.
For those who are actually interested in this thread and big solutions for this City and Cities abroad, and our Environment, I have fantastic news.
The Director of Innovation, for the US Federal Government, Dept of Transportation has informed me that "MY INNOVATION", IS NOW ON HIS NEXT YEAR'S BUDGET.
Think about it, this is remarkable, I achieved that, and I haven't even met the man. After, even my first conversation with him, the following week his mentioned my stuff at Capitol Hill, seeking more innovation monies.
I am so unbelieveably excited about my upcoming meeting. It feels like I've met with practically everybody else in Toronto, all sorts of other "big wigs", and now I finally get to present to the important guy. He is about to fall off his chair. I can't wait, to see his jaw drop on the floor.
There may be some flaws, minor flaws, in my innovations, but nothing that's not fixable. Remember, I have had to learn the entire transit industry, from scatch as an outsider.
But today, I have learned some things, that even transit specialists don't know themselves.
Patience is a virtue, I have waited so long. Thank God, for the fact that I didn't give up. I felt like it so often, but my passion for human life, a better world etc. has been my motivation. Making a footprint in the world. These are the things that really count.
Money, oh well, just as long as we have enough to live on. Friends, family, footprints, on the important things.
Was that Alexander's twin sister?
And comparing yourself with Bell is ludicrous.
subway safety
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Ya, that's right Pink Lady,
Alexandra Graham Bell and myself, we are in the same Industry.
Attempting to make a better world, it's called Inventing.
It's people who care, who make the time to invent.
We only get paid if we are successful. I've spent about 10,000 hours caring without one green cent.
I do relate alot with Mr. Bell. He was laughed at, just like me.
Asterix
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Because the basis of your idea is pretty straightforward and pretty straightforward to be shown to be seriously flawed.
Despite many, many straightforward and simple questions to seek explanations from you, all that were supplied in response were fluff posts about supposed meetings that haven't happened and delusions of being a misunderstood genius and innovator.
Which official has this title of "Director of Innovation"?
http://www.rita.dot.gov/about_rita/key_officials.html
Which "innovation" of yours are you referring to? You've gone on at length about platform doors (obviously not your innovation given they are in place in other cities).
Your station skipping scheme? It has been shown to not be close to what you have claimed in several easily understood posts in this thread, so surely a real transportation official hasn't been conned by it. So what "innovation"?
But you already met him last summer, remember? In the space of 20 minutes, you "changed his demeanor". Have you completely forgotten this very important meeting?
What could you have told him in that 20 minutes that didn't include saving hundreds of lives or transporting millions more people in a fraction of the current times?
Were you lying then?
So you've supposedly met with just about anyone who is anyone in city bureaucracy but don't appear in the list of registered lobbyists. You've supposedly wowed each and every one of them with the wonders of your "innovation", yet no one has bothered to publicly comment on this radical idea that would save lives, millions of dollars and be a huge blessing to thousands of commuters. What kind of politician or official would pass up the chance to ride that publicity train?
Maybe you haven't really met with these people. Maybe they were able to see all the serious flaws that have already been described in this thread. What do you think is the realistic explanation?
I'm pretty sure it's a top-secret position so he's not listed on the site
subway safety
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Dear Asterix, you defineately amuse me. You seem intent to ask questions, at the same time question me all together.
Let me list first names of the people that I have spent between 1/2 hour to 1 and 1/2 hour with in meetings. If you are that bored, go ahead and pick someone on the list and find out for yourself.
City of Toronto, (Joe, Howard, Lawson), Coroner (Dr. Bert), Associations (Michael), WSIB, (Paul, Brian) Metrolinx (Vince, Jeffrey), TTC people (Gary, Steve, John, Brian)
That's 13 separate appointments, The one with Gary was merely in a meeting hall at a public forum, and I knew before the rest of Toronto knew, that they were going to do "something later in the late fall, regarding separating passenger flow, for Yonge & Bloor), during that open discussion, I merely brought a prototype with a few descriptions, it was not a proper presentation, merely an eye opener to do with a brand new concept "separated passenger flow". Remember I had my patent application in 6 months prior to this meetingand TTC already had "some" of my documentation. Gee, I wonder where TTC got the idea in the first place of separating passenger flow. I brought it to them, and they just took it.
As for the DOT, you are in the wrong dept. There is FTA and then there is FRA, You are in the FRA, I have spoken to the Deputy Chief in Innvoation, since his old boss the DR. resigned 4 months ago. So, check out the FTA, and the person there is the Director of Innvoation.
Anyway, if there is someone who really wants to see and understand this stuff in person, just let me know. I have a meeting with the Mayor Candidates set up after my meeting with TTC.
You have to understand something, I cannot explain everything here. The elliment of surprise is valuable. This is what I was trying to say earlier, if you just state it all out there at once, people think your crazy. It needs a face to face appointment.
If you are having trouble though Asterix, check out that Article in March Issue of Railway Gazette International called Boosting Capacity on a busy network. In October 2007, they had 1.3 million daily riders, this increased to 2.3 million daily in just 4 months.
this was a total crisis. How would TTC fair, if suddenly a extra million people showed up on Monday to take the subway. Not very well. In crisis mode, Santiago Metro, introduced station skipping. and now they commute twice the capacity.
They happen to do it without safety.
There is an interesting article by Charles Wheeler, December 2008, stating in this 59 page report, (on page 32 I believe it is), It more or less states that unless Yonge & Bloor is brought to a 30 second dwell consecutively, than ATO is rendered useless. You cannot throught put extra trains, without a 30 second dwell. In the same article, TTC themselves state that the dwell is presently between 60 and 90 seconds.
This is the solution I bring. Along with train staging, station skipping, separated passenger flow, extreme cost effective safety, available today without needing ATO (which will be another 15 years plus throughout). And there is more I will not share on this forum. Not untill I have my TTC meeting with the top guy.
These 2.23 hours of weekly Toronto shutdown hours need to be fixed yesterday. I hold that key. Reliability is only possible with safety today.
Any more questions Asterix?
Darwinkgo
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Sharon, I don't think people doubt that you can get meetings, just that your innovation is not
1) a product that can be bought and sold, right now I would call your 'innovation' nothing more than a transit advocates idea. Just because you have a patent doesn't mean your idea is uniquely yours, you just have the right to defend it if you believe someone violates it. All the 'violator' has to do is show any part of your idea being implemented earlier.
2) hasn't been done elsewhere (for your loading schemes)
3) is actually possible without causing huge backhaul problems which result in trips on average taking about as long or just as long, while giving some customers very fast service, creating a vocal minority with very slow service (for station skipping)
As for dwell time dealing with throughput, as long as your dwell time is below your head way by the amount of time it takes for a train to clear the station, you can still run more trains. RER in Paris for example is famous for having one train pulling into the station just as the other train is leaving. This is without safety doors.
Safety doors only speed up trains (beyond track incursions incidents) as they allow higher speeds into and out of the station.
Once you are able to move more people, dwell times will drop due to less crowding, as we have seen at Bloor Station with the passenger distribution barriers.
1) a product that can be bought and sold, right now I would call your 'innovation' nothing more than a transit advocates idea. Just because you have a patent doesn't mean your idea is uniquely yours, you just have the right to defend it if you believe someone violates it. All the 'violator' has to do is show any part of your idea being implemented earlier.
2) hasn't been done elsewhere (for your loading schemes)
3) is actually possible without causing huge backhaul problems which result in trips on average taking about as long or just as long, while giving some customers very fast service, creating a vocal minority with very slow service (for station skipping)
As for dwell time dealing with throughput, as long as your dwell time is below your head way by the amount of time it takes for a train to clear the station, you can still run more trains. RER in Paris for example is famous for having one train pulling into the station just as the other train is leaving. This is without safety doors.
Safety doors only speed up trains (beyond track incursions incidents) as they allow higher speeds into and out of the station.
Once you are able to move more people, dwell times will drop due to less crowding, as we have seen at Bloor Station with the passenger distribution barriers.
Asterix
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It's a two-way street. I'm amused by your insistence at ignoring the numerous straightforward questions many people have asked you on this thread before. The fact you insist on answering with a variation of 'you people just don't get it' instead of addressing the questions presumably says something to most (all?) readers.
So are you then listed with the registered lobbyists with the city?
If not, why? You are claiming to have lengthy meetings with top level bureaucrats and politicians and presumably that requires one to be registered on the lobbyists list (especially since you are under the belief you are marketing a product that you have hopes of generating revenue for yourself).
Also, since you've had so many meetings with so many influential people, why have none of them (particularly the politicians) bothered to mention to the media that they are backing some revolutionary idea that will transform the moribund TTC, saving millions, saving lives and adding wonderful increases in capacity?
The fact not a single one has bothered to do so also is telling to the reading audience.
Just to be clear, are you explicitly claiming that the TTC trial at Y&B was completely your idea and that the TTC implemented specifically what you suggested?
Also, you claimed in the printed media to have "changed his demeanor" with your 20 minutes talk with GM Gary. With something so groundbreaking, why would he put off any further meeting(s) with you for so many months? Is he really not interested in saving lives or in making huge increases in capacity to the over-burdened Yonge line? Or does he, as a long-time transit professional, see the many flaws in your proposals?
I guess I was simply trying to follow the identification you previously gave, not the identification you actually meant. Funny how that works. I presume you mean:
http://www.fta.dot.gov/about/offices/about_FTA_777.html
That is just blowing smoke. Leaking it out in disjointed pieces that don't all make sense is not the way you are going to convince anyone.
Your basic premise is fairly straightforward and can be expressed in this forum rather simply. It is the fact there are many glaring holes in it that leads people to conclude what they have. You could have avoided this had your explanations been completely rational, logical and based on sound transportation theory and realities.
Always with the teasers. Just need some more meetings. Soon all will be made clear. Just need some more meetings. In many of your earlier posts you presented your explanations as being the whole picture. Really, what more could there be held back that could drastically alter the perception of pretty well all the other readers of this thread?
See above. But I'm not holding my breath they'll be answered. Too much of a consistent pattern has been seen.
And that's the problem. They keep stealing her brilliant ideas and not giving credit!
SlickFranky
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You seem incapable of explaining anything here. We already do think you're crazy, because you've been avoiding every sensible question and criticism we've put forward. I'm going to try again......for like the 8th time.
Here's an easy one:
Subway platform barriers normally require ATC, so that the trains can consistently stop in correct alignment with the doorways. How does your innovation remove the necessity for ATC?
Asterix
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I'm open to be corrected on this one, but I believe her plan is for the barriers to be a foot or two back from the edge of the platform. The theory being that the platform doors would initially remain closed while the subway doors open, allowing passengers to squeeze their way along this narrow passage, either to the ends of the platform or to alternating exit platform doors, offset from the entering doors.
Once those leaving have cleared, then the entering platform doors would open and those waiting to board will not have to push their way past those streaming out (hence the nomenclature of "separated flow which can only happen with safety").
How this will not lead to serious choke points for those exiting (claustrophobia anyone?), let alone do anything to cut the dwell time, remains a complete mystery to me. I'm sure there will never be an over-sized or over-burdened passenger stuck between the platform barrier and the train.
But then I may have completely misunderstood her explanation, like the ignorant fool I am.
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