Videodrome
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I am ashamed to live in Scarborough after that debacle.
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Rob Ford's Toronto
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Oriana
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Protesters nearly come to blows outside debate
http://www.ctvnews.ca/video?clipId=...1&hootPostID=bca26d19763c560371debcf2f76d79d6
Yeah, sigh...
http://www.ctvnews.ca/video?clipId=...1&hootPostID=bca26d19763c560371debcf2f76d79d6
Yeah, sigh...
hper
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Well, there have been not-so-comparable antecedents. But, seriously, volks, if Robbie's gonna bully up, the bully-back is inevitable. Not sure Ghandism's gonna cut it. Nor apparently will "beweg deinen fetten arsch zur seite" (get your fat ass out of the way). If he's gonna stack these things with his Stainshirts, no-shirts won't cut it. Gotta get up in his ample visage.
Angelunatic
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Here are my thoughts as an outsider
Chow needs to streamline her messaging, Rob Ford is just a lying liar who lies , Stinz was too one sided and reminded me of a really too perfect tv mom, Soknackie is smart but comes off as weak, Tory sounded the most Mayoral to me and I always vote NDP.
The debate questions were very geared toward the current Mayor. No one wants to be the first to call Rob out , they tried to but failed when and where it counted. If Toronto elects Rob again, it will be because the others are not playing the same game as Ford.
Chow needs to streamline her messaging, Rob Ford is just a lying liar who lies , Stinz was too one sided and reminded me of a really too perfect tv mom, Soknackie is smart but comes off as weak, Tory sounded the most Mayoral to me and I always vote NDP.
The debate questions were very geared toward the current Mayor. No one wants to be the first to call Rob out , they tried to but failed when and where it counted. If Toronto elects Rob again, it will be because the others are not playing the same game as Ford.
soimelk
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Everyone needs to calm down. Ford supporters were brought in in large numbers. Even with the "Ford more years" chants, there were still boos reigning down when he spoke. It seems likely the questions were selected to suit his agenda, and even then, he wasn't the "King" of the debate. He's running against his own record of failure. That sense came through for me.
As for the others, I felt Chow, Tory and Socknacki all had good moments. Stintz was by far the worst. She saved her most pointed attacks for Tory and Chow, and reminded voters about Ford's successes pre-crack scandal.
The despair that comes from seeing Ford avoid a debate with serious questions about gangs, or crime is understandable. But he's not going to be able to stage manage his way around those questions if he hopes to convince the public he's fit for office. Unfortunately, this debate wasn't the starting point for that.
As for the others, I felt Chow, Tory and Socknacki all had good moments. Stintz was by far the worst. She saved her most pointed attacks for Tory and Chow, and reminded voters about Ford's successes pre-crack scandal.
The despair that comes from seeing Ford avoid a debate with serious questions about gangs, or crime is understandable. But he's not going to be able to stage manage his way around those questions if he hopes to convince the public he's fit for office. Unfortunately, this debate wasn't the starting point for that.
Lucinda
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Sorry if I'm parsing the language too narrowly, but Iola Fortino is not a likely unwell Evangelical homophobe; she's a likely unwell Catholic homophobe (see her twitter profile if you have any doubt of this). Evangelicalism is a Protestant movement.
(If goldsbie truly meant evangelical in the lower-case sense, then I guess my criticism doesn't apply).
(And further sorry for the bad form of replying to a tweet here on this forum, but i. I don't have a twitter account, ii. I figure goldsbie reads this forum, and iii. judging on the basis of the debate tonight no-one else follows any rules or standards anymore so I'm giving up on them as well).
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rm20010
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Practically half the time she spoke she was drowned out by Ford hecklers. Sad really.
rm20010
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You and me both. I'm born and raised here and I can't believe the immaturity of some of my neighbours.
nfitz
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If an anglophone speaks English, and a Francophone speaks French, what does a homophone speak? Is it some kind of universal translator or something that is understand by all humanity? So she's a deity of some kind?
... I'll get my coat ...
nfitz
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The audio on CP24 (before it cut out completely) had her clear. You didn't really hear the racists shouting while she was speaking.
BellCalamity
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What a mess. Chow was the only one who brought up Ford's sobriety and the media criticize her, calling it a low blow. And that was from a Torontoist reporter!
AlvinofDiaspar
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If she got the balls - she would have told them to shut up and behave like adults live. Preferably whack something like the podium while at it.
AoD
Huge Seagull
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How about, 'ask the Cachet Ladies what they think about bill C-36!'
evvabeing
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rm20010
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Ah, I didn't consider TV cameras bleeping out the nonsense in the background.
Thankfully you guys watching at home didn't have to put up with the constant nonstop heckling from Frauds (and a bit from Tory's camp, unfortunately).
It's to the point where I've decided to throw my hat in the Chow camp after the debate. Some parts of her policy I'm still iffy about but I've decided doing work for a campaign team does more than yelling back at hecklers to shut up.
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