jje1000
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Yup, which is why I think that people should ditch this ship and look for someone better. Perhaps it's time to start looking around for some promising people who could lead that front instead of Ford and his brother.
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Yup, which is why I think that people should ditch this ship and look for someone better. Perhaps it's time to start looking around for some promising people who could lead that front instead of Ford and his brother.
urbandreamer
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What could Rob do after politics? I think he should have a radio or TV show--sports related.
FutureBuilder
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The "left" is always very organized at the municipal level in Toronto. I think a lot of people underestimate the divide between the downtown core, and "suburbs". I doubt there will be a lot of support for "left" candidates like Chow or say Vaughan, outside the old city of Toronto.
King of Kensington
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Indeed. It's more likely that the right of center vote will be split. I expect a candidate like Karen Stintz who appeals to the "blue bloods" who find Ford uncouth but won't vote for the left to run as well. There's a floor of about 33% for center-right candidates in municipal elections so Ford's 36% in a one on one with Olivia Chow isn't that impressive.
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FutureBuilder
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Well Marion Berry smoked crack....went to prison....was elected as councillor...then became mayor again. All in a few years.
BurlOak
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Build me a casino downtown and I will make that wager.
FutureBuilder
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I think in a head to head election, Olivia ("I lived in subsidize housing while on council with my husband") Chow will lose to Ford. If the best people this city can put forward are Chow and Ford, we are in trouble.
King of Kensington
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I don't think it's Vaughan's time. Olivia has a lot of appeal in the suburbs, Jack Layton was quite popular in Scarborough and the federal NDP won 2 seats there and came very close in a third one.
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Ramako
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Your question was:
Speaking only on behalf of myself, I asked:
My point is that a left wing mayor would likely be less draconian than Ford in his/her approach to drug users. Part of the reaction to Ford supposedly using hard drugs is the element of hypocrisy, given his hard line on the issue epitomized by his use of "hug-a-thug" in reference to youth programs targeting drugs and gangs.
TheTigerMaster
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About that,
one of the single most destructive things the Ford brothers have done is the perversion of liberal and conservative politics.
Best example of this is the whole subway vs. LRT fiasco. Can anyone here please explain to me why LRTs are considered to be "liberal" and subways are "conservative". I can't see the logic in it. It seems like it should be a very non-partisan thing to me. Both liberal and conservative leaning Council members should be supporting what has been shown to be the best transit by urban planners.
TheTigerMaster
Superstar
Of course. I don't think we'll see the core and suburbs support the same candidate in a long time.
TheTigerMaster
Superstar
Retire. Leave this city alone.
Tulse
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"In a one-on-one match-up between NDP MP Olivia Chow and the mayor, Chow wins with more than half the vote, 56 per cent, to about a third for the mayor (36 per cent), according to a poll released Sunday by Forum Research Inc."
So you believe that the poll is more than 20 points off?
FutureBuilder
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Well the NDP had heavily politicized City of Toronto politics before the mega city. As well as the heavily politicized unions. The Fords used the entire "lefties" thing as a campaign focus, but I wouldn't attribute partisan politics in City Hall to them.
I think partisan politics have no place in municipal government. The whole "left wing" "right wing" thing is ridiculous at the municipal level.
Johnny Au
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The Crackstarter should raise $208,333.33, since that that number minus 4% of it is very close to $200,000.
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