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Re/Max 2007 Real Estate Reports

It's not a "simple fact" it's your own individual circumstance. People already pay a major premium to live in the city (as they do in most major cities) yet the demand still exists. If cost is your sole determinant, then Toronto is definitely not the place for you.
 
Plus (yet again) it would not have applied to first-time buyers.

Where are you getting this? I thought it would've applied to first time buyers purchasing a resale home (the large majority of homes), but not new developments, at least that's what is said in an Star article in the land transfer tax thread.
 
That's correct poppajoe.... so it would have applied to the vast vast majority of first-time homebuyers.

Anyway stop being delusional people. OF COURSE it will negatively impact the housing market in Toronto.
 
Market Commentary - September/october 2007

What can you say about this market? August was another record breaking sales month. Residential sales in August were up 15% over August of '06. Active Listings were down by 20% from this time a year ago - signs of an even stronger sellers market with still rising prices. The condo market was even hotter - sales up 22 % overall, and up by 32% Downtown over August of last year. The Etobicoke market also continued its strong resurgence this year with condo sales ahead by 35%. When a normal or balanced market shows a sales-to-listing ratio in the 25-35% range and we are at 90% Downtown, then you know multiple offers are the 'norm' - not the exception. While early September numbers are ahead of '06 for the month, they indicate that the market has slowed or paused from the hectic summer market - you need to work with a salesperson that is in the market everyday - not someone who does three or four deals a year to stay on top of these changes.

Recent press has talked about multiple offers and more specifically the 'phantom' offer. The listing salesperson says there is more than one offer but you don't know for sure because the listing salesperson says to "fax all offers" and you could be competing against yourself by bidding more than you need to. Instead of whining about the market, take control! In most instances, multiple offers should be presented in person by your salesperson. That way you know how many offers you are competing against and you can adjust your offer price accordingly. If the seller is out of town or suffers from health issues that don't allow for 'in person' offers, then the listing salesperson should invite all salespeople with offers to come to their office and they should fax all offers together. That way, you again know how many offers there are, and more importantly, the listing salesperson does not get to see your offer before the seller gets it. Too often a listing salesperson sees the other offers first and then submits their own. Faxing together would eliminate any temptation for the listing salesperson to alter his offer at the last minute. If the listing salesperson is not prepared to accommodate this request, then don't make an offer. Or if you really want the property, don't offer more than the list price!

This month we looked at sales at West Lofts, 833 King Street West - a former perfume factory converted into real lofts, which is what so many young people want. With only 52 units, it is a high demand building in a trendy area. Pre-sales in 1997 were under $200 per sq.ft. In fact you could have bought a 1614 sq.ft. Penthouse for only $269,000. This same unit resold first for $385,000 in 2003. The same unit sold again in 2004 for $425,000 and in 2005 for $450,000. What would it sell for in 2007? Probably over $600,000 if it came to market. A smaller one bedroom loft with parking and locker sold for $321,000 in June of this year - at 108% of list price! The very same unit sold two years ago for $245,000. That 's a price increase of 31% or over 15% per year. Even without a view, the unit is now selling for just over $400 per sq.ft.


Rental Commentary:
August was a hectic month for rentals. Over 200 one-bedroom units and over 100 two-bedroom condo units were leased Downtown. While condo prices have been rising, condo rents have been almost unchanged over the last few years. However rents have started to move up. At the rental bottom, a one-bedroom without parking could be had for $1200. Last month the same one-bedroom without parking went for $1450 on average. When you add parking, the average for August was $1650. Two-bedroom units that averaged about $2000 are now up to $2200. Days-on-market for one-bedroom rentals was just 10 days. You had longer to look if you wanted two-bedrooms. The average time here was 14 days! Renters need to know market rents and they must be prepared to make an offer on the first visit to the unit if they want it!
 
So was the motion brought up and passed on the day the land transfer tax was rejected, or has it been postponed? Probably a moot point anyway...
 
So was the motion brought up and passed on the day the land transfer tax was rejected, or has it been postponed? Probably a moot point anyway...

No idea, though it'll be interesting to see if it's fixed for the next go-around.

Regarding the poster who claimed first-time buyers would be pushed out of the city, they need to remember that the CMHC now insures mortgages amortized over 40 years. This means more "affordable" payments for the cash-strapped. Though of course the downsides of taking on such a mortgage are fairly significant.
 
Market Commentary - November 2007

SALES COMMENTARY IS THE NEW CITY LAND TRANSFER TAX
We purposely delayed this month’s report so that we could comment on the impact of the new Toronto Land Transfer Tax. Key points of this tax: it will double the tax buyers pay in Toronto – Ontario also has a Land Transfer Tax, about the same amount as every other province, except Alberta and Saskatchewan which have none! Specifically it works this way: .5% to $55,000 of purchase price, 1% from $55,000 to $400,000 and 2% on the balance. The Ontario Land Transfer Tax is a little more expensive: 1% goes only to $250,000; then it is 1.5% to $400,000 and the same 2% over $400,000.
Is there any good news? Thanks to the lobby efforts of the Toronto Real Estate Board, first time buyers are exempted up to $400,000. As well, all Agreements of Purchase and Sale are exempted if they are entered into before December 31st of this year. That means people who bought into new condo projects over the past couple of years, but will not take title to their unit for another year or two are exempted. The actual tax kicks in February 1st of 2008, so in theory you could buy after December 31, and as long as the closing date is on or before January 31st, then you also would not pay the Tax.
Besides the illogic of this tax grab, how will the market deal with it? Consider a $380,000 purchase – about the average price on TREB. A buyer currently would pay the Ontario Land Transfer tax of $4,275 and will now pay another $3,525 City Tax for a total of $8,800 – just for the purpose of owning property and paying property taxes! Speaking of paying property taxes that was the reason why this tax was brought in. Toronto residential owners were supposedly already over taxed and we needed alternative revenue sources. The truth of the matter is that Toronto residential owners pay the lowest property taxes. For a property assessed at the average price of $380,000, an owner would pay $3,240 in taxes in Toronto. The same property assessed at $380,000 would pay taxes of $3810 in Mississauga, $3,890 in Richmond Hill and $5,140 in Pickering – all of which receive less municipal services! The good news is that people buying in Toronto will recover the extra City Land Transfer Tax (through lower property taxes) by living in their new accommodation for 6 years!!
In the short term – up to January 31st of next year, expect the market to be much busier than usual. Prices will probably increase in the period to negate any tax savings. Starting February 1st expect the market to slow down more than normal. In fact, there will probably be better opportunities for buyers at that time. And yes, the market will adjust to this tax over several months. For those who can remember the introduction of the GST, retail sales slowed for a few months and then everything went back to normal.
The challenge to this new tax is how will buyers adjust to having to come up with more money at the time of purchase? Younger people will simply take out a bigger mortgage and lenders will be happy to accommodate. We will simply have more 5% or 0% down payment mortgages. And now that 40 year amortization mortgages are prevalent, can 100 year be that far behind? After all, people in Spain already have 100 year amortization mortgages. So the real cost to buyers from this tax is that you will be paying more interest costs for a longer period of time!


RENTAL COMMENTARY WITH THE NEW CITY LAND TRANSFER TAX
Just because you are renting, don’t for a minute believe you won’t pay this tax! If the result of this tax is that fewer people can afford a down payment and are forced to rent, then this increase in demand will force up rents. At the same time, renters will be dealing with owners who have paid this City tax, which to them is just another cost of doing business that will be passed along. The interest cost on this Tax is about $20 per month. The large supply of rental condos has put a lid on rents so far, and a bigger supply coming up in the next few years will probably mean that rentals rates will not move upwards by more than $100-200 per month, depending on size.
 
And the real solution? Don't buy a freaking house or condo anywhere! Just live in a tent and save money like I did!

Why would anyone pay 3X the purchase price of their home via a mortgage? A crime imho and mass stupidity!

Live humbly in a tent or cheap rental or cheap Hamilton condo ($30,000) for 5-10 years and save enough cash to buy a nicer house in Hamilton or Toronto. Makes sense, eh?

But the conservative real estate types always have something to bitch about. Considering the income required to carry a $350,000 mortgage (average?) I believe these middle class folks can easy afford another $6000 or so for that tax. For example, if a smoker becomes nonsmoking....Or ditches that new BMW for Autoshare...Or withholds on some silly renovation....It can be done.

Stop whining.
 
And the real solution? Don't buy a freaking house or condo anywhere! Just live in a tent and save money like I did!

Why would anyone pay 3X the purchase price of their home via a mortgage? A crime imho and mass stupidity!

The funny thing is prices are so high because it is easy to buy. Go back to requiring 25% down in cash on hand and watch as house prices plummet back to 1950's (plus inflation) values. Oddly enough, they become affordable again.

I don't agree with not buying a house or condo. I do agree with living well beneath your means and paying it off over a 10 to 15 year amortization.

Interest paid with a 10 year amortization is pretty small and hopefully you can live more comfortably than a tent for those 10 years.
 

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